Posted Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:06 pm GMT by ninetensuited
i raise preflop get one call and a raise, i immidiatley put this guy on QQ as he is semi tight.
Stage #480734765 Tourney ID 60792 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $20 - 2006-08-24 13:58:55 (ET)
Table: 8774867 (Real Money) Seat #7 is the dealer
Seat 1 - BOROGLASS ($1310 in chips)
Seat 2 - PBASQUID ($1280 in chips)
Seat 3 - SARC ($1420 in chips)
Seat 4 - BISON ($1470 in chips)
Seat 5 - TGUN60 ($1720 in chips)
Seat 6 - DRAGNET ($1510 in chips)
Seat 7 - RIVERRATTIM ($1960 in chips)
Seat 8 - MATRE ($1460 in chips)
Seat 9 - RICKY2121 ($1370 in chips)
MATRE - Posts small blind $10
RICKY2121 - Posts big blind $20
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to PBASQUID  
BOROGLASS - Calls $20
PBASQUID - Raises $100 to $100
SARC - Folds
BISON - Folds
TGUN60 - Calls $100
DRAGNET - Folds
RIVERRATTIM - Folds
MATRE - Folds
RICKY2121 - Raises $240 to $260
BOROGLASS - Folds
PBASQUID - Calls $160
TGUN60 - Calls $160
*** FLOP ***   
RICKY2121 - Bets $540
PBASQUID - Calls $540
TGUN60 - Calls $540
*** TURN *** 
RICKY2121 - All-In $570
PBASQUID - All-In $480
TGUN60 - Folds
RICKY2121 - returned ($90) : not called
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PBASQUID - Shows (One pair, aces)
RICKY2121 - Shows   (Flush, ace high)
RICKY2121 Collects $3390 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($3390)
Board
Seat 1: BOROGLASS Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: PBASQUID HI:lost with One pair, aces -
Seat 3: SARC Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: BISON Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: TGUN60 Folded on the TURN
Seat 6: DRAGNET Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: RIVERRATTIM (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: MATRE (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: RICKY2121 (big blind) won Total ($3390) All-In HI:($3390) with Flush, ace high -
i know, i should have laid it down on the flop, but then again, if my read is right, im getting 10 outs to win, any A, any K and his Queens are dead if he catches one. I guess its just another suckout, one of the many in th elast 2 days
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Posted Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:27 pm GMT by Sid Lambert
even w/ 10 outs on the flop, your pot odds arent looking good facing a bet of more than half the pot, altho the implied odds are somewut arguable....if you were first to act, it would've been fine, but calling w/ somebody yet to act behind you is pretty dangerous....also after that you're very pot-committed, on a draw....my biggest problem is having the other guy in here too, even tho he didnt win, that added danger, and the fact that the guy w/ queens is being so aggressive despite being semi-tight, out of position, and there being 3 ppl around....also even tho your read was right this time, you've gotta put ppl on a range of hands w/ a certain uncertainty for each possible hand...i mean...there is a big difference if he has a slightly different hand (JJ or KK)...in either case, you're in deep trouble, the best you can hope for is AQ, but a re-raise preflop from a tight player makes this unlikely considering the utg called, and you raised 5x...
remember, if you're the aggressor its totally okay to have a hand like this, but as the person under attack, your criteria for a calling hand has to be much more stringent...being the aggressor is far better cuz you put them on the defensive, and they may fold w/o a fight anyhow, the more you are the aggressor, the more they have to assume you have a strong hand....
good read tho, its always nice when your best guess is exactly correct...
Posted Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:35 pm GMT by MrDarling
I probably wouldn't have called the flop bet...
But , I do this all the time.
Make a good read but a bad play.
ie I call an allin with for example :
Full Tilt Poker Game #930561069: $1 + $0.25 Sit & Go (6260430), Table 3 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:16:26 ET - 2006/08/24
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrDarling  
edh1238 calls 30
kevqtmn folds
greedy sweety folds
CALT folds
MrDarling raises to 90
Acesup2u folds
annt folds
32550 calls 75
KittyQuinn folds
edh1238 calls 60
*** FLOP ***   
32550 checks
edh1238 checks
MrDarling bets 150
32550 calls 150
edh1238 folds
*** TURN *** 
32550 checks
MrDarling bets 250
32550 raises to 1,260, and is all in
MrDarling calls 1,010, and is all in
32550 shows  
MrDarling shows
*** RIVER *** 
32550 shows a straight, Eight high
MrDarling shows a pair of Tens
32550 wins the pot (3,120) with a straight, Eight high
MrDarling stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,120 | Rake 0
Board:
Seat 1: 32550 (small blind) showed and won (3,120) with a straight, Eight high
Seat 2: KittyQuinn (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: edh1238 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: kevqtmn didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: greedy sweety didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: CALT didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: MrDarling showed and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 8: Acesup2u didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: annt (button) didn't bet (folded)
Posted Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:47 pm GMT by Sid Lambert
alrite, you just got burned on that one...altho preflop, if somebody has already called, and you are looking to steal, you should probably raise for more than the standard 3x...but that being said, the continuation bet w/ position on the flop is fine, then you got lucky on the turn...that gigantic overbet makes calling tough, but you appear to have had the right read...then just got screwed over on the river...he had 9 outs....it happens 
i would've been surprised not to have been up against a flush draw
Posted Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:03 pm GMT by Dave B
Nothing earthshattering, but he was 75% on the flop, you were 68% on turn.
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