Two small stakes 6-max NL flop decisions |
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Posted Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:56 am GMT by tame_deuces
Low stakes NL 6-max
Hand 1:
Hero is in the CO with 9  7
UTG limps, UTG+1 limps, Hero bets 6xBB, Button folds, SB calls (!), BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.
Flop: (20BB pot)
9  9  6 
Checks to hero. What betsize do you go for here and why?
Hand 2:
Hero is in the CO with K Q
UTG limps, folds to hero, Hero raises 5xBB, Button calls, folds
Flop: (12.5BB pot)
8 J 9
Action to hero. What betsize do you go for here and why?
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Posted Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:04 am GMT by shorn7
Hand 1: Close to pot size. There is no way someone will put you on a 9 here and your bet will look like a larger than normal continuation bet with AK at a benign flop. You won't win a lot of $$ here anyway unless osmeone has a pair, so you might as well make it look like a steal bet and hope that you get it all-in now.
Hand 2: Probably 1/2 pot size a s a continuation since you have 3 outs to the nuts, 1 more to a str8 that isn't the humts and potnetially 6 outs to overs that are good. This isn't a great flop for you, but you need to continue to bet so that players don't get a line on your play that you only lead the flop when you have something. I suppose you could check and call as well, but I would try to take it down with a 1/2 pot sized bet and if you get called, you have plenty of outs.
Posted Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:08 am GMT by UrAteUp
| tame_deuces wrote: | Low stakes NL 6-max
Hand 1:
Hero is in the CO with 9 7
UTG limps, UTG+1 limps, Hero bets 6xBB, Button folds, SB calls (!), BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.
Flop: (20BB pot)
9 9 6
Checks to hero. What betsize do you go for here and why? |
Why a 6xBB bet pre-flop with this hand? 3xBB I could understand but 6xBB...now your playing power poker...lol.
After this flop with what you have in your hand, I would check and try to trap. There is no flush draw possible so no fear there. Your only fear here is 66 and I doubt 66 would stay in a hand where some nut case..  ...just bet 6xBB which would lead most people to think he has either AX, AA or KK. So check it right here to make villian think your on a AX draw. If a good card comes out on the board on the turn (A or face) check again and let villian bet. When he bets then raise over the top or push baby push.
| Quote: | Hand 2:
Hero is in the CO with K Q
UTG limps, folds to hero, Hero raises 5xBB, Button calls, folds
Flop: (12.5BB pot)
8 J 9
Action to hero. What betsize do you go for here and why? |
5xBB bet is a good bet here. I won't call you a nut now...  . You have no hand really at the moment. You do have a gutshot straight draw so it has to be worth something. Unless you know villian to be one of those over betting donks who just want to push people out of a pot, I would check. If villian is a pushing donk then lay down about a 1/4 pot size bet here. My reasoning for that is more of a block to get you some drawing room and odds to draw.
Just my opinion and I am sure someone will come back and say...WRONG... 
Posted Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:28 am GMT by LeafsFan1122
WRONG!
No, just kidding.
Hand 1 - I lead out for half pot, hope for someone to come over the top.
Hand 2- I may check/call or more likely check/fold here. The texture of that flop seems to me that someone else hit nicely on it. Your hand is pretty weak imo.
Posted Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:23 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
I am with shorn here. On the first hand, if you raised that big preflop and then checked the flop, that would look VERY suspicious. A smaller bet could also come off as suspicious. I bet about 3/4 pot or even overbet it to make it look like you are trying to buy it.
Second hand I would just make a standard 1/2 pot continuation bet. If you get raised, you have to let it go. I dont like playing this hand out of position (darnit, why did the button HAVE to call?).
| UrAteUp wrote: | | Why a 6xBB bet pre-flop with this hand? 3xBB I could understand but 6xBB...now your playing power poker...lol. |
The reason he raised to much is because he really didn't WANT a call. With the two limpers before him, a 3x BB raise that is called by one of the blinds almost automatically gives odds for the limpers to call. Try and pick up the blinds with the bet, but if you get called, nobody is going to put you on 79s, so if you hit...biiiiig money!
Posted Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:45 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| Dat_Dude wrote: | | The reason he raised to much is because he really didn't WANT a call. With the two limpers before him, a 3x BB raise that is called by one of the blinds almost automatically gives odds for the limpers to call. Try and pick up the blinds with the bet, but if you get called, nobody is going to put you on 79s, so if you hit...biiiiig money! |
 ...see if I tried something like this...everyone would call...and the board would come up AAK. Never when I riase with garbage do I get a good flop. It usually comes on a limped hand where I set back and wait till a good card falls and someone takes a shot. Then I spring my trap and take a good pot. But honestly I still can't see making a 6xBB raise with a junk hand...is it because they are sooooted? .... ... give me some kind of a reson to play this way...please...it is driving me crazy...
Posted Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:47 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
| UrAteUp wrote: | | is it because they are sooooted? .... ... |
In a 6 handed game, suited connectors are a very good hand if played well. If you only play big cards and pairs, you will get raised when junk hits on the board and folded to when high cards hit every time. Playing suited connectors is...well...mixing it up 8)
Posted Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:03 am GMT by fiezk
I don't mind the size nor the fact that you raised these hands pf. I'd much rather raise with 97s than a hand like A8 or K9. 4bb + 1bb per limper is standard for many players.
Especially in a short handed game, where people tend to pay more attention - even at low stakes, I like to keep the cbets and the regular bets the same size. Otherwise your opponents will read you easily. With deep stacks of 100bb+ I almost always make the bet around the size of the pot on the flop. A half pot sized bet will give even a got shot straight draw enough reason to call given the implied odds (if you hold a monster) or the possibility to bluff you out of the pot (had the flop missed you).
For those reasons I like a bet around the size of the pot on both occasions. I especially liked the fact that the sb called in the first hand, hope he held a hand like TT or JJ .
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