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Your move (AJ)



Posted Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:09 pm GMT by Oasis
Full Tilt Poker Game #937464518: Table Tierra De Palmas - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:04:07 ET - 2006/08/26
Seat 1: TheAggresor ($10)
Seat 2: Oasis123 ($22.10)
Seat 3: tmwalden ($9.20)
Seat 4: Pataxe ($4.95)
Seat 5: Inferno75 ($19.20)
Seat 6: Mr299 ($12.45)
Seat 7: fatsally ($9.85)
Seat 8: HBTkidd ($12.15)
Seat 9: FAST EDDIE 88 ($3.85), is sitting out
Mr299 posts the small blind of $0.05
fatsally posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Oasis123 Ace of DiamondsJack of Diamonds
HBTkidd has 15 seconds left to act
HBTkidd is sitting out
HBTkidd has timed out
HBTkidd folds
TheAggresor raises to $0.35
Oasis123 calls $0.35
tmwalden folds
Pataxe folds
Inferno75 calls $0.35
Mr299 folds
fatsally folds
*** FLOP *** Ace of SpadesEight of SpadesTen of Hearts
TheAggresor bets $0.70
HBTkidd has returned
Oasis123 calls $0.70
Inferno75 raises to $3
TheAggresor folds
Oasis123 has 15 seconds left to act
TheAggresor adds $1.05
Oasis123 calls $2.30
*** TURN *** Ace of SpadesEight of SpadesTen of Hearts Two of Diamonds
Oasis123 checks
Inferno75 bets $5
Oasis123 ???


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Posted Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:30 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Honestly, I would have folded to the raise on the flop.

Failing that, your call on the flop didn't freeze up your opponent. Fold.



Posted Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:59 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
Fold on the flop. Since you called, fold on the turn. This smells like someone caught two pair with AT.


Posted Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:05 am GMT by Oasis
Ok I ended up folding the turn.

He showed A3... Embarassed



Posted Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:06 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Well then his mistake was showing. He either thinks he's a genius bluffer (he's not), or he grossly overvalues his hands. That's valuable information.


Posted Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:54 am GMT by Ryan_j37
Yea i definetly fold somewhere on the flop. This is why i dont like cold calling marginal but decent hands preflop. AJ is easiliy dominated and even though youve hit your A your uncertain you were winning. Hope you stacked that guy later on.


Posted Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:06 am GMT by fiezk
UTG raises 9 handed, am I the only one who folds pre flop? Other than that, definitely fold to the flop raise.

Another point. If you decide that there is enough chance that you are ahead to call the flop raise, then follow through to the river. There's no point in calling the flop and folding the turn.



Posted Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:23 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Since it's suited AJ and the stacks are deep, AND we're in superior position I don't mind playing this hand. But, we do need to be able to lay down a pair of Aces if the pre-flop raiser continues to show strength if we're going to play that.


Posted Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:37 pm GMT by shorn7
Quote:
Since it's suited AJ and the stacks are deep, AND we're in superior position I don't mind playing this hand. But, we do need to be able to lay down a pair of Aces if the pre-flop raiser continues to show strength if we're going to play that.


Exactly. We can play here, but need to get away if we flop top pair and it is an Ace. I am more comfortable calling the flop (or raising) if we flop a Jack. But, we need to hit hard (two pair or J with big FD/SD) to commit serious $$.

As others point out, mark this guy since he obviously plays any Ace really hard. He is a profit center for you over time.



Posted Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:40 pm GMT by UrAteUp
This is 5/10 poker guys not 100NL. You will find the donk who likes to push with Ax hands all the time. I personally would have raised AX hands in this micro level to 5xBB. You want to push stupid players (Ax players) out of these pots before they do hit their kicker.

This is one of those times that villian pulled off a perfect semi bluff with absolute aggression. This screams to me that he is bluffing. A set or better would not want to bet you out of a pot just yet. They would want to carry you down with them.

If I find and think villian is trying to get me out of here, then it's all in baby. The players (most of them) think bluffing is the biggest part of poker and they like to use chip stakes to show it.



Posted Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:31 pm GMT by kingetje
I would have raised on the flop


Posted Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:29 pm GMT by Jauron
At these limits it's not an automatic fold. There are plenty of Aces we are ahead of here, what is freaky is that this guy is coming out of no where to challenge for the pot. A simple reraise of the first better might have changed that.

The only thing I really don't like about the hand is the smooth call on the flop of the original better, better to raise now than to call off a bunch of chips and if anyone calls behind us (in this case raises) we are out of position the rest of the hand and unsure where we are.

I do agree the fold on the turn is silly, if you are going to smooth call to see if the guy can fire two bullets you are going to be throwing money away too often. Most players can fire 2 bullets.

The thing about AJ is it's an iffy hand to show down but a pretty decent hand to bet with. Calling offers us only one way to win the pot, betting or raising offers us two and requires the average player to have much better holdings to continue to stay with us. For these stakes you will probably have to take some chances that your Ace is good, but at least force him to a decision and don't call show this table and player it's your pot until they show you a better hand or fold it on the flop.






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