The Min Raise (revisited) |
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Posted Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:36 am GMT by wEbMaStEr
So, yes, everything in poker is situational, and altho (in a previous thread) I laid into the min raise as a useless and ineffective play... This obviously depends on knowing your opponents, position, your hand, etc. etc.
basically, if i min raise from utg... beware! 
Seat 1: IWUTitan74 (1565 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: bamako53 (1555 in chips)
Seat 5: johncsgalt (2580 in chips)
Seat 6: Jeff Rambo (2775 in chips)
Seat 7: wEbMa$tEr (2645 in chips)
Seat 8: bennybt9 (1330 in chips)
Seat 9: _RASMUSANNA_ (1050 in chips)
johncsgalt: posts small blind 75
Jeff Rambo: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wEbMa$tEr  
wEbMa$tEr : raises 150 to 300
bennybt9: raises 1030 to 1330 and is all-in
_RASMUSANNA_: folds
IWUTitan74: folds
bamako53: raises 225 to 1555 and is all-in
johncsgalt: folds
Jeff Rambo: folds
wEbMa$tEr : calls 1255
*** FLOP ***   
bamako53 said, "gg"
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
wEbMa$tEr : shows (three of a kind, Aces)
bamako53: shows   (a pair of Jacks)
wEbMa$tEr collected 450 from side pot
bennybt9: shows   (a pair of Aces)
wEbMa$tEr collected 4215 from main pot
IWUTitan74 has returned
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4665 Main pot 4215. Side pot 450. | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: IWUTitan74 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: bamako53 (button) showed and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 5: johncsgalt (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Jeff Rambo (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: wEbMa$tEr showed and won (4665) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 8: bennybt9 showed and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 9: _RASMUSANNA_ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Posted Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:55 am GMT by Dat_Dude
The two types of hands that I see min-raising from EP consistently are BIG Pairs (AA, KK) and middle suited connectors.
I personally think it is a terrible play. Even if you raised the normal 3xBB, with Villain having JJ in the hole, you were going to get action. If nobody had a hand at all, then the BB has odds to call with just about any two cards. If he flopped two pair with his 58o you would be kicking yourself for not raising more preflop. Just my opinion.
Other than that, nice hand!
Posted Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:06 am GMT by Sean_in_NJ
dead kitten
Posted Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:47 am GMT by UrAteUp
| Dat_Dude wrote: | The two types of hands that I see min-raising from EP consistently are BIG Pairs (AA, KK) and middle suited connectors.
I personally think it is a terrible play. Even if you raised the normal 3xBB, with Villain having JJ in the hole, you were going to get action. If nobody had a hand at all, then the BB has odds to call with just about any two cards. If he flopped two pair with his 58o you would be kicking yourself for not raising more preflop. |
I can see Dats point here. It is a very credible point but I agree with this play from time to time and notice I say time to time. First if you bet a standard 3-5xBB raise and do get action from JJ I highly doubt if he will push seeing an A or any over on the board. AJ I could see pushing with the flop but JJ would most likely figure he was beat and lay it down.
If you know there are some wild players or LAG players left to act and have no doubt that they will re-raise with hands in late position then I see nothing wrong with min. raising to get rid of some hands before it gets to this LAG players seat. The min. raise tells LAG that I have a hand worth raising. Lag sees the min raise as a sign of weakness and presses over the top knowing the only hands that will call will be hands that have him beat pre-flop. Good way to play a monster pre-flop hand in my opinion. You just better make sure there is a LAG there who will raise or you will be kicking your own ass when AA gets cracked by some meaningless BS hand.
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