Posted Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:44 am GMT by mortaleclipse
What would you do question
PokerStars Game #6105566008: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/08/30 - 08:37:45 (ET)
Table 'Skadi II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Clone56 ($14.30 in chips)
Seat 2: RedAces19 ($9.60 in chips)
Seat 3: jackplays ($5.50 in chips)
Seat 4: tarheelgolf ($5.60 in chips)
Seat 5: granvillea ($9.20 in chips)
jackplays: posts small blind $0.05
tarheelgolf: posts big blind $0.10
alacur: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Clone56  
granvillea: folds
Clone56: raises $0.30 to $0.40
RedAces19: calls $0.40
jackplays: folds
tarheelgolf: calls $0.30
*** FLOP ***   
tarheelgolf: checks
Clone56: bets $1
RedAces19: calls $1
tarheelgolf: folds
*** TURN *** 
Clone56: bets $2
tarheelgolf is sitting out
RedAces19: raises $4 to $6
Clone56 said, "hit your flush"
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Posted Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:19 am GMT by shorn7
Um, ez fold. You have top/weak.
Posted Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:28 am GMT by Poto
You have to fold here, if he had the double belly buster you're beat, if he had the flushdraw you're beat, if he's got a ten you're probably beat.
Posted Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:40 pm GMT by mooseontheloose
You bet, he raised which doesn't mean he hit the flush but he likely has a hand better than you and wants to know if you hit the flush. Since you did not, and you don't even have a straight or a set (both possible calling hands if you don't believe you're beat) you really have to fold. Don't go broke with top pair/medium kicker against a straight/flush board.
You didn't go all-in did you?
Posted Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:10 pm GMT by Sid Lambert
yer gonna be in a terrible situation if you call here, cuz unless you hit yer 5 outer on the river, yer gonna be out of position....wut're u gonna do, shove the rest of yer money and hope he folds?....pretty ballsey considering all the strength he has shown and how dangerous the board is...
the one thing you have going for you is that the table is quite shorthanded, which generally means you should expect more underpowered hands, but i think i'd still hafta fold here not knowing anything else
Posted Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:03 pm GMT by mortaleclipse
Well honestly i really wanted to find out what this guy could of hit so I did it.
Clone56: raises $4 to $10
RedAces19: calls $2.20 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Clone56: shows (a pair of Tens)
RedAces19: mucks hand
RedAces19 leaves the table
Clone56 collected $18.70 from pot
Clone56 said, "nope"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $19.65 | Rake $0.95
Board
Seat 1: Clone56 showed and won ($18.70) with a pair of Tens
Seat 2: RedAces19 (button) mucked  
Seat 3: jackplays (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: tarheelgolf (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: granvillea folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Posted Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:21 pm GMT by Fat Tony
It's great that it worked out for you, but the only way i would have called there is if i had a read on the guy. Otherwise that was a pretty easy fold regardless of the fact that you ended up winning.
Posted Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:23 pm GMT by mooseontheloose
You got very lucky with that fishy =
Posted Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:43 pm GMT by mortaleclipse
thanks guys and it was more of a info call to see what this guy would of raised me with. To get info sometimes im willing to pay some. Is that bad in the long run at a table?
Posted Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:58 pm GMT by Fat Tony
I have done the same thing on occasion so i'm not against this tactic, but I definitely would look for a situation where you can do it as cheaply as possible.
Posted Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:39 pm GMT by mooseontheloose
Yeh, IMHO there is a big difference in calling a decent sized bet for info and calling off your entire stack.
Posted Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:37 pm GMT by ninetensuited
i agree w/ moose here, INSTAFOLD
Posted Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:23 am GMT by shorn7
Don't do this. If he is a huge donkey, he will do it again, someone else will call him and you will get to find out that he is a donkey for FREE when he is forced to show. Much better than risking your stack with a very marginal holding and one that he could easily have beat. Long run if you play hands like this, you will lose 95% of the time.
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