Posted Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:22 am GMT by hawkonzen
this happened this morning, what would you do ?
PokerStars Game #6113352132: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/08/30 - 22:26:34 (ET)
Table Rauma 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: socboats ($54.30 in chips)
Seat 2: hawkonzen ($148.70 in chips)
Seat 4: sslick000 ($148.60 in chips)
Seat 5: specultr ($93.35 in chips)
Seat 6: D_ReKK13 ($325.15 in chips)
Seat 7: parkb1002 ($167.40 in chips)
Seat 9: jmsangia ($49.35 in chips)
D_ReKK13: posts small blind $1
parkb1002: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hawkonzen  
jmsangia: folds
socboats: folds
hawkonzen: raises $4 to $6
sslick000: calls $6
specultr: folds
D_ReKK13: folds
parkb1002: calls $4
*** FLOP ***   
parkb1002: checks
hawkonzen: bets $8
sslick000: raises $8 to $16
parkb1002: raises $14 to $30
i should add that since i just joined the table, i don't know anything about the players.
so.. ?
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Posted Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:38 am GMT by UrAteUp
Push. I would be putting villian on a PP or AK.
Posted Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:14 am GMT by mooseontheloose
Agreed. With the preflop raise you have to assume (or hope) no one came in with trash with 96. I'd bet that one of them is holding something like AK or AQ, possibly suited spades (even AJ spades). Second guy is likely either on an OESD (dumb, but a lot of idiots overbet this) with something like A6 or has an overpair in the pocket.
So again, push. You're likely way ahead and just hope you don't get sucked out on.
Posted Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:38 am GMT by shorn7
I go all-in here. The only legit. hand that beats u is 88, so I make sure that I get it all-in here, mostly due to the fact that there are two draws out there. Villain could be messing around with 66 or A6s or something like that. But more likely, he has an overpair to the board or a draw, so I want to make him pay the max to get there. If he folds, that is OK too.
The problem I see with just smooth calling is that there a re a lot of ugly turn cards for you that (1) can beat you, (2) might not beat you, but make your hand much more difficult to play profitably, or (3) scare HIM and he folds when you could have gotten him to potnetially commit on the flop.
Get it in there now and hope he doesn't hold 88 or outdraw.
Posted Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:52 pm GMT by Skribbles
Doubtful that someone flopped the straight. My guess is that one of them is holding 56 or 67. You are ahead here the majority of the time with outs if someone flopped a straight. Push.
Posted Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:14 pm GMT by hawkonzen
yep i did what you would do, and got instant-called.
hawkonzen: raises $112.70 to $142.70 and is all-in
sslick000: folds
parkb1002: calls $112.70
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
parkb1002: shows   (a full house, Eights full of Fives)
hawkonzen: mucks hand
parkb1002 collected $317.40 from pot
hawkonzen said, "wow"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $320.40 | Rake $3
Board
Seat 1: socboats folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: hawkonzen mucked
Seat 4: sslick000 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: specultr (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: D_ReKK13 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: parkb1002 (big blind) showed and won ($317.40) with a full house, Eights full of Fives
Seat 9: jmsangia folded before Flop (didnt bet)
i still believe it was the right move, what is the odds for a set over set anyway?
Posted Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:23 pm GMT by Ryan231
Happens, if I flop a set I'll usually have little trouble getting my money in.
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