Posted Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:19 pm GMT by bokeh
Hi all! I have two "nuts" calculators and both give the same result. I'm baffled. The community cards are: '8H', '7H', 'JH', '9H', 'QH'! The calculators both say the nuts for these cards is "Queen high straight flush"! I would have thought it was king high straight flush. What am I not understanding?
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Posted Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:34 pm GMT by mackkie
HMMM the 10 of hearts?
Unless of course you have K  10 
Or unless your nuts calculators do not include the K , I know mine dont. 
Posted Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:37 pm GMT by UrAteUp
You can't have a striaght flush with those board cards without the 10 . So even if someone has the K and you have the 10 you win because your hand makes the straight flush and not just a K high flush.
Posted Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:49 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| UrAteUp wrote: | | You can't have a striaght flush with those board cards without the 10 . So even if someone has the K and you have the 10 you win because your hand makes the straight flush and not just a K high flush. |
And if you have K T ?
I think UAU created those calculators...
If you have a link to the site/software, I'm sure someone will check it out and corroborate.
Posted Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:49 pm GMT by mackkie
But still, the nuts is the nuts and if you have the K straight flush, thats the nuts, correct? I mean i see your point but if you are trying to calculate the best possible hand you could hold, isnt it the K high straigh flush?
Posted Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:50 pm GMT by bokeh
Yeah but the nuts is base on the community cards alone; what's in someones hand is irrelevant to the nuts.
Posted Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:55 pm GMT by bokeh
Actually I wrote the calculators. Anyway I've found the error now, it was round off at the 15th decimal place. Thanks for the input anyway.
Posted Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:00 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| bokeh wrote: | | Actually I wrote the calculators. Anyway I've found the error now, it was round off at the 15th decimal place. Thanks for the input anyway. |
I don't think that's your problem...
| bokeh wrote: | | Yeah but the nuts is base on the community cards alone; what's in someones hand is irrelevant to the nuts. |
...that is.
Posted Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:02 pm GMT by mackkie
| Sean_in_NJ wrote: | | bokeh wrote: | | Actually I wrote the calculators. Anyway I've found the error now, it was round off at the 15th decimal place. Thanks for the input anyway. |
I don't think that's your problem...
| bokeh wrote: | | Yeah but the nuts is base on the community cards alone; what's in someones hand is irrelevant to the nuts. |
...that is. |
EXACTLY
The nuts is based on your cards and the community cards, no one else at your table can beat you. For example you have 6 7  and your opponent has A  2
The flop comes out 3 4 5
You have the nuts and no one else can beat you at this point in time.
If the turn comes A 
You still have the nuts.
If a K you have the nuts. No matter what anyone else at the table has, no one else can beat you.
You may want to take another look at your program, because you are calculating the nuts incorrectly by just looking at the community cards. If you need further help/assistance on this idea let us know.
Posted Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:37 pm GMT by bokeh
| mackkie wrote: | | You may want to take another look at your program, because you are calculating the nuts incorrectly by just looking at the community cards. If you need further help/assistance on this idea let us know. |
I don't see what you are saying. The nuts is the highest ranking hand it is possible to make based on the community cards. The rank of the hand doesn't change based on who is holding the cards; the nuts is the nuts. I'm sure you are confusing the nuts with the highest ranking hand in play.
Posted Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:36 pm GMT by mindgame
Frankly, I find this whole argument ridiculous.
You're all nuts.
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:32 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
Only one person can hold the 10 . Thats why its saying the q high straight flush is the nuts. Cause if you have it, NOBODY can have the king high straight flush. If you have EITHER the king high or queen high straight flush, you have the NUTS.
The nuts just mean you have a hand that nobody else can beat, both hands classify as such.
Its like when you have AK in your hand and the community cards are AAK27. AK is the nuts even though if you DID have AA, it would be a better hand.
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:45 pm GMT by snoogins47
Somebody finally got it
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