Can someone explain to me how I lost this hand? |
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Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:51 pm GMT by mackkie
Am I missing something? K high flush for me, hes got a Q high?
Stage #442672407: Omaha Pot Limit $0.25 - 2006-09-06 15:47:27 (ET)
Table: THUNDERBIRD AVE (Real Money) Seat #7 is the dealer
Seat 7 - EMPRESS58 ($21.85 in chips)
Seat 8 - JJ32 ($6.40 in chips)
Seat 9 - MRKKLEEN ($52.03 in chips)
Seat 1 - D1R3M ($11.40 in chips)
Seat 3 - JFCKZAY ($9.67 in chips)
Seat 4 - FALLENONE ($23.80 in chips)
Seat 5 - GOR30 ($30.79 in chips)
Seat 6 - FILANTHROPSD ($9.40 in chips)
JJ32 - Posts small blind $0.10
MRKKLEEN - Posts big blind $0.25
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to GOR30    
D1R3M - Calls $0.25
JFCKZAY - Calls $0.25
FALLENONE - Folds
GOR30 - Calls $0.25
FILANTHROPSD - Folds
EMPRESS58 - Folds
JJ32 - Calls $0.15
MRKKLEEN - Checks
*** FLOP ***   
JJ32 - Checks
MRKKLEEN - Checks
D1R3M - Bets $0.75
JFCKZAY - Calls $0.75
GOR30 - Raises $1.75 to $1.75
JJ32 - Folds
MRKKLEEN - Folds
D1R3M - Calls $1
JFCKZAY - Calls $1
*** TURN *** 
D1R3M - Checks
JFCKZAY - Checks
GOR30 - Bets $1.75
D1R3M - Raises $3.50 to $3.50
JFCKZAY - Folds
GOR30 - Calls $1.75
*** RIVER *** 
D1R3M - All-In $5.90
GOR30 - Calls $5.90
*** SHOW DOWN ***
D1R3M - Shows     (Straight, nine to king)
GOR30 - Shows (Three of a kind, jacks)
D1R3M Collects $24.05 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($25.30) | Rake ($1.25)
Board
Seat 1: D1R3M won Total ($24.05) All-In HI:($24.05) with Straight, nine to king -
Seat 3: JFCKZAY Folded on the TURN
Seat 4: FALLENONE Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: GOR30 HI:lost with Three of a kind, jacks -
Seat 6: FILANTHROPSD Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: EMPRESS58 (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: JJ32 (small blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 9: MRKKLEEN (big blind) Folded on the FLOP
EDIT: Is it true u need 2 cards of the same suit for hole cards when u use a flush? Thats what I was just told.
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Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:59 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
First off, this should be in "Non-Holdem Poker Chat."
In Omaha, you must use two cards from your hand, no more no less, and three from the board, no more and no less.
So, in short, yeah you're missing something.
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:01 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
IN OMAHA, YOU MUST USE EXACTLY 2 CARDS FROM YOUR HAND AND EXACTLY 3 CARDS FROM THE BOARD.
Edited because I am a jerk.
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:03 pm GMT by mackkie
| Dat_Dude wrote: |
Please stop playing Omaha for money if you don't know this. |
I would stop, but im up $125 after sitting down with $12 after 2 days of playing... Just trying to learn...no need to sh*t all over me...(edited because dat dude is not a jerk anymore  ) 
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:06 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
| mackkie wrote: | | Dat_Dude wrote: |
Please stop playing Omaha for money if you don't know this. |
I would stop, but im up $125 after sitting down with $12 after 2 days of playing... Just trying to learn...no need to sh*t all over me...jerk |
Ok. I do apologize as that was really harsh, but the only reason you are up that much is pure luck if you dont know the most important rule of the game. You are actually lucky you posted this on here because you were about to lose every penny.
I just figured that if you didn't really know how to play a game, why not try it for play money first?
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:11 pm GMT by mackkie
Thanks for the apology...I admit I am pretty embarassed because I feel like I am a pretty decent NL player, and now I feel like a rookie
I just went for the gold with my last $12 on absolute, kept winning, and never looked back from there. As I just lost this hand I looked up the rules, but I just assumed it was exactly like holdem when it came to the rules...
I wish I could delete this post and I wish I could delete the email i sent to absolute support team saying "URGENT ..." LOL
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:14 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
Urgent. That was funny.
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:23 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
| mackkie wrote: | | wish I could delete the email i sent to absolute support team saying "URGENT ..." LOL |
That is a nice streak you are on that is for sure. Maybe not knowing that rule helped you in certain hands by getting opponents to fold? Who knows.
One of the biggest problems I had when I started out with Omaha (ages ago) was if the board had 2 pairs showing and I only had one of those cards. I couldnt figure out why I didnt have a boat. Example:
Board: A A K K Q
My hand (that I busted on) just contained 1 Ace and my buddy beat me with KQ. They desribed that my hand was just 3 Aces with a King kicker while he had Kings full of Queens. Luckily that was only for $5 and I got to go to the bars after that!
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:27 pm GMT by mackkie
Yeah, this is actually the first time I have came across this situation.
All I can say is this payback for all the holdem bitches that donked out on me. Ever hear of Karma?
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:34 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
Did AP ever get back to your email?? :D
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:36 pm GMT by mackkie
| LeafsFan1122 wrote: | | Did AP ever get back to your email?? :D |
Yeah this is what it said...
YOU DONK!
Have a nice day.
Absolute Poker
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:37 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
| LeafsFan1122 wrote: | | Did AP ever get back to your email?? :D |
I bet instead of AP hitting "Reply" in their mail client, they hit "Forward" and sent it to everyone they know. Mackkie will soon be known by the entire poker community...
We will be so proud
just kiddin with ya 
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:56 pm GMT by mackkie
Haha,
Everytime I try to post my thoughts/opinions now when playing holdem, everyone who reads this thread will just skip over me now :x
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:57 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
Change your handle 
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:58 pm GMT by mackkie
Not a bad idea...I wish I could keep my post count tho
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:03 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Mackie as you already know your not the first to make this mistake and you sure won't be the last.
As the "Jerk" said...AP might get a laugh out of it but I bet this is something they have seen many many times. Omaha is a darn fun poker variation and challenging. Most of the time pairs and 2 pairs mean nothing. Straights are often ran over by flushes. Sets are good but boats are great. Quads happen and so do Royals. Learn the game more and I bet you will find it pretty fun.
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:15 pm GMT by mackkie
Yeah, sorry for calling u a jerk, I was just real fired up. I really think I am going to make the switch to mostly PL omaha cash games and do NL holdem tourneys, although AP's tourneys suck.
When I said to the kid that I thought I beat him he actually told me "Yeah I found out about that rule after losing a huge pot too". After flopping the set I prob woulda called down anyway, but so far there is a ton of action but there is still def. skill involved. I hope to continue on my winning ways with it.
EDIT: by the way I got a good laugh when I went to edit me calling you a jerk and it already says "edited because I am a jerk" lol.
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:18 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| mackkie wrote: | | Yeah, sorry for calling u a jerk, I was just real fired up. I really think I am going to make the switch to mostly PL omaha cash games and do NL holdem tourneys, although AP's tourneys suck. |
He is a "Jerk". don't appologize... ...but he is still our Dat friend...
Posted Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:44 pm GMT by mindgame
This is funny, because when I first started dealing omaha in home games in the mid-80's I would patiently explain this rule...
about 15 times each night. Now these people were not idiots, although rocket scientists and brain surgeons, as a group, were probably under-represented. It got SO bad that they insisted I change the name of the game to "Two and only Two," and for 15 years that's what we called it.
That made the number of times/evening that the rule was forgotten in the heat of battle drop in half. What it did, mostly, was shorten the argument/explanation at the showdown. Everyone just looked at the current moron and said:
"Two and only two."
Now, being a math major, I didn't like the name at all. In mathematics, we would more correctly say "exactly two," but they couldn't wrap their heads around that either.
Posted Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:31 am GMT by MrDarling
I played a lot of omaha and made some easy money from people just moving over from Hold'em - just to lose it later to people who actually know omaha.
I still play it a little, and still get confuse with some hands :
if I have AAJT and the flop is AJx - it might take me a street or two to realize that I don't have a boat...
Posted Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:58 pm GMT by groton
| MrDarling wrote: | I played a lot of omaha and made some easy money from people just moving over from Hold'em - just to lose it later to people who actually know omaha.
I still play it a little, and still get confuse with some hands :
if I have AAJT and the flop is AJx - it might take me a street or two to realize that I don't have a boat... |
nope but
if your A  A  j t and the board is A  J  x you got the current nuts and a good shot of it being the complete nuts
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