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Posted Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:56 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
... that all the limit Hold'em players seem to be turning Maniac these days?
On Stars I consistently see at 8- or 9-handed tables people making it 4 bets preflop with KQ vs AJ, and then they will bet and raise each other the whole way with no pair!
I saw one guy raise with 33 when his opponent bet on a AKQ board... guess it's a good thing he did, because the bettor had J high! Where the hell is all this irrational aggression coming from??? Is it just not "cool" to play TAG anymore? I can't figure it out.
Has anyone else seen shenanigans like this?
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Posted Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:26 pm GMT by ninetensuited
yeah, ive seen it at stars playing .50/1 FL. ive played it once. I played approx 150 hands where i only saw the flop maybe 20 times and left the table plus 40$, hmmm maybe i should play it a bit more
Posted Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:19 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
It's not just FL, NL has gone mental too, If i get called down by 3rd pair 1 more time today... I'll start making sure I have a hand!
LAG is it?
I blame DN
*cough*
j/k
Posted Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:39 pm GMT by ninetensuited
| wEbMaStEr wrote: |
I blame DN
*cough*
j/k
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HERE WE GO AGAIN
Posted Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:50 am GMT by UrAteUp
I do blame it on TV poker. People watch the pros play certain hands and think this is the way it should be done. Not realizing these are situational occurances based upon reads and past experience with players. Not based upon the fact that 33 is the nut hand on an AKQ board...  .
I am finding this type of play in NL as of late as well. I have seen more then one player push with bottom pair good kicker or two suited cards...   ...I thought I was missing some great new strategy till these donks helped to add to my bankroll....
Posted Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:21 am GMT by wEbMaStEr
| ninetensuited wrote: | | wEbMaStEr wrote: |
I blame DN
*cough*
j/k
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HERE WE GO AGAIN |
j/k = just kidding 
I do agree with UAU 100% tho
Posted Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:13 am GMT by Dave B
I played last night and some chic w/ who went through $600-800 in a few hours grossly overestimated her hands.
One notable one was me raising w/ QQ and her 3 betting from the blind and me 4 betting-she called. Flop J98, I bet she called. Turn 3, I bet she CHECK RAISED, I call. Turn blank, she bet, I called-she shows A9 and was SHOCKED that I had her beat.
There was also a lot of dolts raising from mid position or FROM THE BLIND w/ A7 A8 etc. WTF???? These are barely PLAYABLE hands.
Oh well, gotta love the action.
Posted Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:35 am GMT by JewishPete
Couldn't agree more. I noted this about party Mid-High limit games on here a few months ago, and many people disagreed with me.
Playing 5/10 FL on bodog last night I saw some real maniacs re raising Ax regardless of what was in front of them, overplaying small PP's and bottom pair, draws, etc, etc. The solution really is to just nut peddle, and you will get paid off.
Posted Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:22 pm GMT by jeffonline
I agree many more maniacs, Pacific Poker NL ring games $10, last night I found myself folding TPGK after the flop several times, because the maniacs were going in with very big bets, I presumed early that they had two pairs or trips, I had lost half my stack before I realised that they were playing bottom or second pairs, I just tightened up won all my money back and more. This is going to be fun and rewarding, please do not discourage the maniacs. I notice that when they win big or loose they change tables so people cannot get a read on them. I am sure this type of play must be making them a profit in the short term. They love to see the flop, so it’s usually cheap to that point. If you raise pre flop they call nearly ever time, they love to slow play their big hands, watch for the big all in on the river. Don’t try and bluff the maniacs they always seem to have some small part of the action. Happy fishing.
Posted Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:30 am GMT by lwestatbus
I've seen a scattering of these players playing low FL as well but, now that you mention it, I would say that the frequency is increasing. And the increased frequency means that you can count on two of these wackos at a table from time to time and there isn't much better than that.
One thing I've noticed about these wackos is that they seem to be completely oblivious to a super-tight player coming alive in a hand.
I LOVE player notes.
Posted Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:58 am GMT by UrAteUp
One new trend I have noticed (and enjoyed) is a big stacked player setting at your table and they push all in with crap hands like 62o and bizarre crap like that. I ran into one this morning who was doing this and tool over half his stack. It seems when he would push I would have a good enough hand and make the call. All told he dropped $20 in the 30 minutes I played before heading to work today.
Had a guy doing the same thing at a little higher level table too last night. Been seeing alot of these guys over the past few days. Is this some type of new strategy that I don't know about? Anyone else see this type of BS play at their NL tables?
Posted Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:36 pm GMT by BeerWench13
I noticed a few last night playing $25 NL at party. Had one guy call my preflop, flop, turn and river bets with bottom pair on the board (he had A2 in the SB and flopped a deuce). There were flush, straight and boat possiblities on that board by the turn. He was sitting at ~$60 when I sat and went broke within an hour. The hand that broke him was classic when he pushed preflop from BB after a raise, re-raise and re-raise with 83o. Needless to say, the AA and KK both called him and the A's held up to both. I added him to my buddy list. It seems that the TV quote "It just goes to show that aggressive poker is winning poker." has been taken rather seriously by many, many players.
Posted Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:09 am GMT by khaosanroad
Yep! I've been doing great the last few days. I keep giving them slightly wrong odds to call and they keep calling with their bottom pair, and occasionally they actually have a gutshot that they miss.
Posted Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:38 am GMT by toonarmy1987
im seeing this all the time as well! people moving all in with no hand, especially if they have the chip lead.
i dont think they realise that if any one has a hand then they are going to get caught. i dont understand why they do this, they dont even need to steal the blinds if they are chip leader. 9 times out of ten i just think easy money, but it sure as hell annoys me when the hit with a stupid hand like 7/2o!
Posted Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:48 am GMT by Jauron
My willingness to call down with less than great hands has increased partly due to this. The over the top bluffs I can at least respect though, it takes a big hand to want to call from a normal player. It's the just over Min bet where I am getting a good price on my call with second pair I don't get. If you are going to bluff, at least give me a reson to fold. I sometimes call min bets on the river just for information and sometimes my K high is good enough.
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