5 best players in the world right now...whats your list |
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Posted Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:02 pm GMT by mrcfkane
(1)phil ivey
(2)chip reese
(3)daniel negreanu
(4)barry greenstein
(5)chau giang
notables: dan harrington, gus hansen, hellmuth, wEbMaStEr 
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Posted Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:11 pm GMT by ninetensuited
| mrcfkane wrote: | (1)phil ivey
(2)chip reese
(3)daniel negreanu
(4)barry greenstein
(5)chau giang
notables: dan harrington, gus hansen, hellmuth |
hellmuth would be higher up on my list if he didn't show every big laydown he makes, or bitch when he gets beat. and as far as your top 5. I dont think you can have a top 5, it has to be at least a top 10, because you are leaving some very good players off the list.
I will make a case for a few.
you are leaving off Chris Ferguson, arguably the best tournament player in the world. back to back National heads up championship runner up. he is the only person to make it to the finals of that tournament twice. that says a lot i believe. Besides the fact that he has made numerous WSOP circuit final tables over the last couple of years. In my opinion there isnt many players better than him in tournaments.
Ted Forrest- National heads up champion. need i say more? his round 2, 3, and 5 matches all lasted over 2 hours and he had 3 of the 5 longest matches in the NHUPC tourney. knocking off sean sheikhan, Sammy Farha, and also Chris Ferguson in a best 2 of 3.
and as much as many of you may not like him
Mike the mouth, in my opinion has to be up there as well. maybe not for his poker ability, but his ability to keep people on their toes, the way he shows down bluffs, you never know what this nut has. plus the fact that he has the uncanny ability to put someone on tilt by talking shit to them all day long. watching him and hellmuth when they got down to 3 w/ coyt corkins at the 2005 WSOP TOC was just hilarious, he was able to tilt hellmuth pretty bad as far as i can remember.
Im just saying before you put a list out of 5 people, maybe you should do a little more research. there are several pros that you left off, by the way, Jennifer Harmon is another you left off, what about Doyle? hmmmm
Posted Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:28 pm GMT by mrcfkane
| ninetensuited wrote: | | mrcfkane wrote: | (1)phil ivey
(2)chip reese
(3)daniel negreanu
(4)barry greenstein
(5)chau giang
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Im just saying before you put a list out of 5 people, maybe you should do a little more research. there are several pros that you left off, by the way, Jennifer Harmon is another you left off, what about Doyle? hmmmm |
doyle is one ofthe 5 best of all time but not right now....i am simply listing what i feel are the five best players in that order, no need for a bigger list. just b/c harmon is not on it does not mean she is not a gr8 player jsut not as gr8 as those guys (and she is not better than any of them so maybe you need to do some research)
i know alot of the gr8 pros out there...i am not arbitrarily spitting out names.
Posted Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:22 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
1: Phil Ivey
2: The rest
Posted Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:30 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
| mrcfkane wrote: |
notables: dan harrington, gus hansen, hellmuth, wEbMaStEr |
omfg i just saw this part
Flattery will get you my full top 5 
1: Phil Ivey (best all round poker player in the world bar none. No really, YOU are wrong! He is!)
2: Allen Cunningham (this guy will be legendary one day, best tourney player right NOW!)
3: Michael Mizrachi (can't argue with the numbers)
4: Doyle Brunson (Noth new can happen on a card table in front of Doyle, he's seen it all)
5: Jeff Madsen (I can't really choose a 5th so i'll pick him for the way he came out of nowhere to take 4 top 3 wsop finishes, no mean feat, prob. never hear of him again now )
Posted Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:28 pm GMT by mrcfkane
quote="wEbMaStEr" | mrcfkane wrote: |
1: Phil Ivey (best all round poker player in the world bar none. No really, YOU are wrong! He is!)
2: Allen Cunningham (this guy will be legendary one day, best tourney player right NOW!)
3: Michael Mizrachi (can't argue with the numbers)
4: Doyle Brunson (Noth new can happen on a card table in front of Doyle, he's seen it all)
5: Jeff Madsen (I can't really choose a 5th so i'll pick him for the way he came out of nowhere to take 4 top 3 wsop finishes, no mean feat, prob. never hear of him again now ) |
booo you tourney front runner (trw how was i wrong since i listed ivey #1 too)
madsen,wtf???????
mizarachi is solid but ive never seen anything from him that makes him so amazing.......and if you talk about the numbers how can you leave out (possibly) the winningest cash game player ever and champion of the 50,000 buyin horse event as the WSOP chip reese
Posted Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:33 pm GMT by ninetensuited
| mrcfkane wrote: | | ninetensuited wrote: | | mrcfkane wrote: | (1)phil ivey
(2)chip reese
(3)daniel negreanu
(4)barry greenstein
(5)chau giang
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Im just saying before you put a list out of 5 people, maybe you should do a little more research. there are several pros that you left off, by the way, Jennifer Harmon is another you left off, what about Doyle? hmmmm |
doyle is one ofthe 5 best of all time but not right now....i am simply listing what i feel are the five best players in that order, no need for a bigger list. just b/c harmon is not on it does not mean she is not a gr8 player jsut not as gr8 as those guys (and she is not better than any of them so maybe you need to do some research)
i know alot of the gr8 pros out there...i am not arbitrarily spitting out names. |
first of all, you try telling her that she is not better than any of them.
secondly, anyone that is part of the group handpicked to play against andy beal is good enough to be on that list. You know, they wont take just anyone. She is by far one of the best high limit cash game players in the world.
Posted Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:07 pm GMT by mrcfkane
| ninetensuited wrote: | | mrcfkane wrote: | | ninetensuited wrote: | | mrcfkane wrote: | (1)phil ivey
(2)chip reese
(3)daniel negreanu
(4)barry greenstein
(5)chau giang
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Im just saying before you put a list out of 5 people, maybe you should do a little more research. there are several pros that you left off, by the way, Jennifer Harmon is another you left off, what about Doyle? hmmmm |
doyle is one ofthe 5 best of all time but not right now....i am simply listing what i feel are the five best players in that order, no need for a bigger list. just b/c harmon is not on it does not mean she is not a gr8 player jsut not as gr8 as those guys (and she is not better than any of them so maybe you need to do some research)
i know alot of the gr8 pros out there...i am not arbitrarily spitting out names. |
first of all, you try telling her that she is not better than any of them.
secondly, anyone that is part of the group handpicked to play against andy beal is good enough to be on that list. You know, they wont take just anyone. She is by far one of the best high limit cash game players in the world. |
i dont care if she thinks she is better than the guys on my list, b/c it's my list...i would geuss that jen would admit she wren't as good as any of them
chip, barry and chau might be the biggest side game winners ever. ivey will probably wind up winning more in the side games over his lifetime than any of them (not to mention he is a pretty good tournament player 2).
daniel is jsut as impressive in the 1k-2k side games as harman and is a better tourney player
Posted Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:51 pm GMT by snoogins47
I went to Barry Greenstein's website once too.
Posted Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:05 am GMT by LeafsFan1122
No one has mentioned the Professor (Howard Lederer) yet.
And where the heck is Mr Moneymaker??
Posted Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:12 am GMT by mrcfkane
| snoogins47 wrote: | | I went to Barry Greenstein's website once too. |
it's a neat site ...mike sexton also considers chau to be in the top 5. ive seen him play a couple of times and he was pretty impressive. it's funny to watch him when he takes a bad beat or gets outplayed. (btw,i also always read stupid little articles that turn up in searches)
regardless of greensteins site though these are still my top players.
am i the onlyperson who likes barry? he makes a lot of gr8 reads and is a lot of fun to watch. he always pulling off some insane bluff
Posted Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:14 am GMT by mrcfkane
| LeafsFan1122 wrote: | No one has mentioned the Professor (Howard Lederer) yet.
And where the heck is Mr Moneymaker?? |
man, every time i see money maker he is making some atrocious call. he is not on the same level as alot of the other top pros.
Posted Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:24 pm GMT by ninetensuited
if its your list, then WTF am i reading it for, and why the hell do i care about it? if you didnt want some sort of feedback on YOUR LIST then you shouldnt have put it up.
i agree w/ Leafsfan, the professor should be on there as well. point being that there are to many great players out there to name a top 5
Posted Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:03 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
I believe the topic is best players in the world RIGHT NOW.
That's why the grinder and Madsen made my list, that's why Howie (I'm allowed to call him Howie) and others, didn't.
5 best of all time would be different.
Posted Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:03 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
I believe the topic is best players in the world RIGHT NOW.
That's why the grinder and Madsen made my list, that's why Howie (I'm allowed to call him Howie) and others, didn't.
5 best of all time would be different.
Posted Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:13 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Best 5 in the world today... hmmm.... well, it's hard to really talk about that, since many players' cash game results are unrecorded, but I imagine it would look something like this for me:
(no particular order)
1. Phil Ivey: how can you not mention Ivey? He's won many tournaments in the last few years, made many final tables, and has the respect (and even fear) of almost every veteran player out there.
2. Daniel Negreanu: Ok, I'm not as big of a fan of Daniel as I used to be, as his table antics can get annoying, but you can't deny his talent. Just the fact that he won WSOP, WPT, and Cardplayer Player of the Year titles in 2004 should tell you everything you need to know. Since then, he hasn't done AS well, but continues to play the game at a high level and is always a threat.
3. Michael Mizrachi: It pains me to mention this guy, as I hate the uproarious celebrations and his macho "posse," but his record this year speaks for itself. I personally think he just had a good run, but no one seems to doubt his talent, and he will be in serious contention for the POY title as the year wears on.
4. Sam Farha: The guy is simply unbelievable. His instincts, his experience, and his uncanny ability to play any two cards. He's been a consistent winner at High Stakes Poker, and he captured his second WSOP bracelet this year in Omaha 8-or-Better after a grueling heads-up duel with Phil Ivey.
5. Chris Ferguson: Although you will probably never find him in a cash game, I don't think many, if any, players have as impressive a tournament record since 2000 as Chris Ferguson, with nearly 40 WSOP cashes, over 20 Final Tables, 5 bracelets, and two Circuit wins, not to mention back-to-back Nat'l Heads-Up runner-up appearances.
Other notables: Chip Reese proved he is still one of the best by winning Cardplayer's Best Side Game Player award last year and capturing what may become the most prestigious title in Poker--the $50k HORSE Championship. The Le's, Nam and Tuan, have proven themselves to be adaptive, very dangerous players the last few years; both have won at least one WPT title, and Nam is in serious contention for the POY this year. Phil Hellmuth--despite the fact he is a grade-A jerk and seems to be a High Stakes Cash ATM--has still had a lot of tournament success at the WSOP the last few years, and should at least be commended for that. There are many other notables, but these are my picks for right now.
Posted Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:30 pm GMT by JMX360
1. Phil Ivey
2. Daniel Negreanu
3. Doyle Brunson
4. John Juanda
5. Allen Cunningham
If Stu Ungar was still alive, I'd put him at the top of the list, regardless of what he did after 1997.
Posted Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:15 pm GMT by Jauron
Not making a list, I will say however my favorite player to watch is Gus.
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