Posted Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:23 pm GMT by Ryan231
Table '31757828 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: Rozzy31 (2210 in chips)
Seat 4: Ryan231 (4560 in chips)
Seat 5: chevy1967 (1495 in chips)
Seat 9: OrionPro (5235 in chips)
Rozzy31: posts small blind 50
Ryan231: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ryan231  
chevy1967: folds
OrionPro: raises 200 to 300
Rozzy31: calls 250
Ryan231: calls 200
*** FLOP ***   
Rozzy31: checks
Ryan231: checks
OrionPro: bets 500
Rozzy31: folds
Ryan231: folds
OrionPro collected 900 from pot
OrionPro: doesn't show hand
OrionPro said, "nld"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 900 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 2: Rozzy31 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Ryan231 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: chevy1967 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: OrionPro (button) collected (900)
Don't know what I should do in these spots, if I reraise preflop and he moves in I cant call. I don't want to invest a lot in this flop if hes got AK but my TT may very well be the best hand. Advice?
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Posted Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:33 pm GMT by Dave B
Reraise preflop, if he pushes back, smooth call or fold.
Or....
Once you are in the position you are in postflop, you can raise him on the flop. You had position here, right? You were sitting w/ a good stack and could risk 1000 without falling back to the pack.
I dont have any problem with your fold here. But this is the problem w/ passive play (just calling). You havent given yourself any information. Remember, 30% of the time, a preflop raiser without a pocket pair will miss a flop. If he is betting out 50-70% of the time on the flop, he is either red hot or he is pushing you around.
2nd pocket pair might warrant a small push back to see where you are at. The K on the flop scares me more than a J or Q, so I might lay down and look for a better spot to stand up to the big stack.
I guess what I am saying (in too many words) is that I would probably make the same play you did. But you might be surprised how often a min raise will induce a fold in this situation.
Posted Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:22 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
| Dave B wrote: | | Remember, 30% of the time, a preflop raiser without a pocket pair will miss a flop. |
Not trying to question this or anything, but just wondering how it works- like what the math is behind it.
So if a player raises AK, 70% of the time he hits?
Posted Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:23 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
| Dave B wrote: | | Remember, 30% of the time, a preflop raiser without a pocket pair will miss a flop. |
Not trying to question this or anything, but just wondering how it works- like what the math is behind it.
So if a player raises AK, 70% of the time he hits?
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