Posted Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:05 am GMT by Oasis
Full Tilt Poker Game #999559794: $10 + $1 Tournament (6585864), Table 10 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 6:01:00 ET - 2006/09/14
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Oasis123  
dirtyd221 calls 30
Ladeder has 15 seconds left to act
Ladeder folds
Mr_white25 calls 30
larsrakn folds
Oasis123 calls 30
JohnnyGstaks folds
woftam folds
little ozzy calls 15
paz420 checks
*** FLOP ***   
little ozzy checks
paz420 checks
dirtyd221 bets 90
Mr_white25 folds
Oasis123 calls 90
little ozzy folds
paz420 calls 90
*** TURN *** 
paz420 checks
dirtyd221 bets 120
Oasis123 raises to 350
paz420 raises to 1,380, and is all in
dirtyd221 folds
Oasis123 ??
First hand on MTT. Don't know anything about these players.
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Posted Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:14 am GMT by kingetje
Shouldve raised on the flop. now you're in a pickle
Posted Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:08 am GMT by red_pen
Fold. At worst you have 4 outs. At best villain has 11. And it's three times more likely that u have 4 outs, than he has 11.
I can't see this being a bluff.
Posted Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:00 pm GMT by Jauron
BB making the move is tricky, he could be overplaying 2 pair here, could have even flopped it. Trouble is villian could easily have 89 or K9 and it's possible he checked AK.
I think we're ahead here more often than not, but given how much money you have in the pot and how much is left to call from a hand you let in for free I'd strongly consider folding it.
I'd have raised the flop BTW and forced a gutshot to outdraw me here.
Posted Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:48 pm GMT by Phil14312
No one thinks our hand is good?
Posted Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:56 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
| Phil14312 wrote: | | No one thinks our hand is good? |
I think there's a good chance it is. Only hands I'm worried about are K9 or 98. AK does not seem very likely to me. But yeah, the fact that he made that move over a bet and raise is indicative of one of two things:
1. He has a hand he thinks he's going to get paid off with, or...
2. He is a typical weak player who overbets his bluffs.
Having put 470 in there, with over 1,000 in the pot and only about 1300 more to call, I'm really leaning toward a call here in a freezeout situation. I'd rather go broke on hand 1 with a good chance to build up a stack than just grind it out for a few hours. Sometimes you just have to take chances in tournaments you wouldn't take in cash.
I'd say a big possibility is something like K  Q , K T , Q 9 , or a similar hand. I say call him and find out. It's only $10, but a win on this hand might be step one to something much bigger.
Posted Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:27 pm GMT by Jauron
| Phil14312 wrote: | | No one thinks our hand is good? |
I said I think we're ahead here more often than not, but I still am not a big fan of the call due to how poorly we played the flop. A flop raise (decent sized) could have gotten us a lot more comfortable with the turn as we really only have to consider 89 as a real hand to be drawing that made it.
Posted Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:42 am GMT by Oasis
With diamonds reasoning, I ended up calling.
He overbet the pot and I figured he was on the diamond draw, trying to force me out.
He held 98 and took the pot.
Posted Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:08 am GMT by MrDarling
can I ask why did you just call the flop? Where you afraid of a better hand or where you slow playing the J?
I would reraised this flop , just to see where I stand. Flat calling with TPGK doesn't give you any information and you give them free cards to draw.
The flop has a flush and a str8 draw - don't give cheap cards if you intend to stay in it.
Also, I would probably raise preflop.
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