Posted Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:18 am GMT by TheSalche
So I was just thinking about this on toilet at 3 am ...
Since no-limit texas hold-em has become the complete standard of poker games, everybody is on the internet playing it all the time and people are getting very good at it. Within a year or two, winrates are going to start dropping due to the fact that not all opponents are donkeys anymore. People losing their money constantly online are going to smart up and learn to play that game just as thousands of others have already. When this happens, it seems like there should be a shift away from hold-em (because its too hard to win at it) towards other non-HE games like stud and omaha.
Anybody else think this is possible? Agree/disagree? Comments?
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Posted Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:42 am GMT by craggoo
All i know is i love stud and omaha 
Posted Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:21 am GMT by MrDarling
you give to much credit to the mass...
online poker has been around for a while and still at least 90% of the people lose money in it.
I don't think this will change much.
I see people who play poker a couple of years still playing as I used to play in my first month (read 3 month ago  )
most people either simply enjoy the gamble feel of the game and are very happy to spend their few 100$ their chasing those lucky breaks. Casinos has been profiting from this side of man kinds for generations by now.
Sure, more players will become good, but that won't make us have less fish. It might reduce the size of money one can make online, but even that I doubt.
BTW, I also love omaha and stud (though didn't connect to the high/low versions yet) and I can see these game getting big as well.
In fact, it seems like most pro on fulltilt play omahah now a days (have seen Phil Ivi and Gus at it yesterday in a $40000PL table - poor Ivy lost two buyins of $16k in a short time , though Gus doubled his $16k pretty quickly)
Posted Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:24 am GMT by kompis
i dont know about this really. BUT i can say that after a long break of online poker of about 4 months, i came back to find it alot harder than i remember. And it seems most people online now have some grasp of NLHE tourney strategy and they are not as easy to push around. perhaps i am remembering how easy it was online incorrectly but it certainly feels alot harder now than it was about 1 year ago
Posted Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:55 am GMT by tame_deuces
I don't think we'll have a super growth in other variants. Stud has always been popular amongst veteran poker regulars. I think hold'em is popular due to its blend of simplicity, action and still enough strategy to make it interesting.
I think the poker craze will fade after a while, like all fashions tend to do.
Posted Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:27 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
| tame_deuces wrote: |
I think the poker craze will fade after a while, like all fashions tend to do. |
Yup... anybody know what happened to canasta? That game was the biggest thing going in the 1920's....
Great game btw if anyone wants to pick it up.
Posted Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:47 am GMT by lwestatbus
As much as I respect Tame Deuces' opinions I don't see poker fading away any time soon, if ever. Not sure what kind of prize pools big time canasta may have had but I'd be willing to bet it was nothing like we're seeing in poker, especially online. And there's another huge difference:
Most of us knew by the time we got to high school that we just did not have the body to make it big in a pro sport. I was 5'9" at 130 lbs and there was literally no big time sport that I was ever going to excel in because I had lost out on the genetic lottery. (Later in college I discovered fencing where being skinny and gangly is an advantage--smaller target. But not much of a prize pool :D.)
Anyway, I've only met one person in my entire life that knew that he was stupid. "I took too much acid in the 60's," he said, "and I just don't think as well as most people any more." Everyone else can visualize themselves winning the WSOP. And the run of amateurs winning since Moneymaker, as well as the WPT, has just reinforced this feeling.
So I think that the fascination is there to stay. The boomers are aging and guys like Brunson and Cloutier are there as role models for them.
The fact that most of us really don't understand what it takes to play big time winning poker is beside the point. If we can play well at our home game, survive online, or even take down that miracle pot in the midst of a donkey-like rush to pour our money into the computer, then we'll continue to dream and dreams are what fuel this kind of recreation.
Posted Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:13 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
To assume that something will be around forever is a bit naive.
I don't know when poker will die out, but it will eventually.
I do like your sports analogy though.... people spend hundreds of millions of dollars a year just watching sports... at least in poker you have a chance to win some money back..
Posted Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:54 pm GMT by Verdi
Texas Holdem will remain the easiest game to beat just because of it's popularity.
Posted Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:03 pm GMT by Dave B
If the youth are the future, my 6 year old daughter prefers spades, go fish, war and slap jacks.
Posted Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:27 pm GMT by lwestatbus
| Dave B wrote: | | If the youth are the future, my 6 year old daughter prefers spades, go fish, war and slap jacks. |
Dave, we need to lock up the rights early for the World Series of Go Fish and the World Go Fish Tour. We'll make millions.
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