win a few BB or break even, then lose 15 BB? |
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Posted Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:51 pm GMT by Mahdrek
ok I'm at over 4000 hands now and just a 3rd way through my 1st poker book
in limit holdem i play at .50/1
lately in about an hour i average 0 to 5 BB's
but sometimes i lose alot like 15 BB's , usually due to bad luck i think, but i still don't have sessions too often where i win this much
is it common to find it easier to lose a lot of money quickly, and only win money slowly ?
the bonuses are what keep me actually making more $ than i lose overall right now?
so basically im wondering if most people win small amounts like 5BB most of the time, then due to bad beats or luck lose more like 15 BB
thanx for any insights, i'm just frustrated cause i thought i was finally over having big loses than i had a couple sessions where i lost 20 and 17 BB's  i lost with pocket K's twice in 1 session
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Posted Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:59 am GMT by Sean_in_NJ
I've found that my bad sessions are my own fault far more often than bad luck. It's usually a result of tilt, overplaying hands or a combination of the two.
Look at all your losing hands after a session, and ask yourself these questions:
1) Should I have been in the pot at all?
2) Should I have stayed as long as I did?
Post hands here that you're not sure about, without results to avoid biased opinions. There are plenty of people that can suggest a line of play. Take those suggestions and compare it to your own actions. You have to be willing to view your own play with the same critical eye that you use on opponents in order to improve.
Posted Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:01 am GMT by tame_deuces
Yes, it's common to swing alot in fixed limit, alot more than 15BBs too. Handing that is one of the things you'll need to master. A 15BB swing is completely standard, I'd go so far as to say that 50-100BB swings should be expected fairly frequently, and truly gross swings can reach into the ugly side of 250BBs.
On the upside, swings go both ways. 
Posted Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:51 am GMT by Mahdrek
ty for replies
yes i do look at my loosing hands, but maybe i should look at more of the session overall too , to see if i was tilting, and post more
ok "swings go both ways" :D i'm looking forward to the swing going forward as much as it goes backwards 
Sean u mentioned 2) should i have stayed as long as i did
do u mean in the current hand or the session overall?
Posted Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:05 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| Mahdrek wrote: | Sean u mentioned 2) should i have stayed as long as i did
do u mean in the current hand or the session overall? |
The current hand is what I meant in this context, although you could ask that about your entire session as well.
Posted Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:33 am GMT by Mahdrek
here's an embarrassing lose, i usually play tight with how many hands i see flop with and my opponent was not a loose player
i (mahdrek) was SB, (iopc) was opponent in BB
.50/1 limit
sorry i could not get hand converter to work
i really should have probably folded to rerasie at turn? 
was i being a maniac?
** Game ID 949052424 starting - 2006-09-20 23:33:17
** Anna Hold 'em (0.50|1.00 Fixed Limit - Cash Game) Real Money
- GustavoKTS sitting in seat 1 with $30.50
- GoKartMozart sitting in seat 2 with $72.25
- Flexiplex sitting in seat 3 with $18.75
- ccc1433732r sitting in seat 4 with $93.50
- NormBabe sitting in seat 5 with $46.75
- pulper80 sitting in seat 6 with $23.75
- omnicap sitting in seat 7 with $26.00 Dealer
- Mahdrek sitting in seat 8 with $46.75
- iopq sitting in seat 9 with $24.56
- ZZTT388 sitting in seat 10 with $9.50
Mahdrek posted the small blind - $0.25
iopq posted the big blind - $0.50
** Dealing card to Mahdrek: Queen of Diamonds, King of Spades
ZZTT388 folded
GustavoKTS folded
GoKartMozart folded
Flexiplex folded
ccc1433732r folded
NormBabe folded
pulper80 folded
omnicap folded
Mahdrek raised - $1.00
iopq called - $1.00
** Dealing the flop: Queen of Spades, 7 of Spades, Jack of Diamonds
Mahdrek bet - $0.50
iopq raised - $1.00
Mahdrek raised - $1.50
iopq called - $1.50
** Dealing the turn: King of Hearts
Mahdrek checked
iopq bet - $1.00
Mahdrek raised - $2.00
iopq raised - $3.00
Mahdrek raised - $4.00
iopq called - $4.00
** Dealing the river: 3 of Spades
Mahdrek bet - $1.00
iopq called - $1.00
Mahdrek shows: Queen of Diamonds, King of Spades
iopq shows: 9 of Spades, 10 of Clubs
iopq wins $14.25 from the main pot
End of game 949052424
Posted Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:12 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
When someone 3-bets the turn, that's a pretty good indicator they have something and you should probably slow down. I don't think I ever fold this hand, but I don't cap the turn, and I check/call the river.
Posted Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:00 pm GMT by Mahdrek
yeah actually i went crazy on this hand now that i look back at it for some reason, thank god for bonuses while we learn
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