Posted Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:43 am GMT by AHBrownell
Texas Hold'em $1-$2 NL (real money), hand #1,035,260,657
Table Augsburg, 22 Sep 2006 5:57 AM ET
Seat 1: artsi88 ($26.05 in chips)
Seat 2: Tixmaster1 ($102.00 in chips)
Seat 3: AAAHHHBBB Q  Q  ($100.00 in chips)
Seat 4: Miami 13 ($31.65 in chips)
Seat 5: Waldon9 ($108.40 in chips)
Seat 6: TheCrow xx ($26.10 in chips)
Seat 7: PauloSun ($61.50 in chips)
Seat 8: QK666 ($57.50 in chips)
Seat 9: gertrud75 ($87.50 in chips)
Seat 10: BALTIK67 ($35.10 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
QK666 posts blind ($0.50), gertrud75 posts blind ($1).
PRE-FLOP
BALTIK67 calls $1,
artsi88 bets $2,
Tixmaster1 folds,
AAAHHHBBB calls $2,
Miami 13 folds,
Waldon9 folds,
TheCrow xx folds,
PauloSun folds,
QK666 bets $5,
gertrud75 calls $4.50,
BALTIK67 folds,
artsi88 calls $3.50,
AAAHHHBBB calls $3.50.
FLOP board cards 3 8 9
QK666 checks,
gertrud75 checks,
artsi88 bets $10,
AAAHHHBBB bets $30,
QK666 folds,
gertrud75 bets $82 and is all-in,
artsi88 calls $10.55 and is all-in,
AAAHHHBBB folds.
TURN board cards 3 8 9 3 
RIVER board cards 3 8 9 3 6
SHOWDOWN
gertrud75 shows A J
artsi88 shows A  Q
artsi88 wins $82.65,
gertrud75 wins $70.90.
I want to get some discussion going about this hand. First off, I realize I probably should have poppped it up preflop. Honestly, the player made the suspicious min-raise preflop which I had seen him do with either aces or a drawing hand (pp or suited connector). I was hoping to see a cheap flop and then either hit a queen or the right flop and proceed from there.
The weird thing about this hand was the play on the flop of course - I took everyone checking except an odd halfpot sized bet into 3 players to mean that everyone missed (turns out this was correct) - so I reraised up to 30BBs. Now the problem of course was that I was worried that I was up against a set - but I figured odds are I had the raising player beat and would either pick up the pot or would worst case lose only his stack size in chips.
When the checking player moved in, I had no idea what to do with his hand range. It just seemed more likely he had a hand like 88, 99, TT, JJ, QQ, KK, or AA than Ahxh. I honestly did not even consider that he might be on a draw like that (I would never dream of semi-bluffing into a raise and reraise!). I decided that I could only beat a few of the hands that make that play so I folded. 
Any thoughts on this hand would be great... - should I have seen through his raise? Should I have simply called on the flop? Should I have just reraised preflop and accepted that if he came over the top I would have to fold?
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Posted Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:54 am GMT by UrAteUp
I can see no reason why you didn't call that flop push. Your only behind pre-flop of two hands. AA and KK.
Little helpful advice on posting a hand. Post it in sections. Like post pre-flop to flop. Then when you get feedback post post-flop to turn. Same with the river. You will be sure to get more accurate feedback.
Posted Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:15 pm GMT by tame_deuces
I def. re-raise pre...I want a little more going into the pot than a min-raise w/queens. Especially versus someone with a handrange like that.
As for the hand...the flop action is certainly very tough versus his perceived range of SC,PPs and high PPs (does he play a high PP like this?), but you are getting a good price and he doesn't know you are as strong as QQ.
Posted Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:35 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
And this is why it pays to... BE AGGRESSIVE... BE BE AGGRESSIVE.
Posted Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:13 pm GMT by fiezk
| tame_deuces wrote: | I def. re-raise pre...I want a little more going into the pot than a min-raise w/queens. Especially versus someone with a handrange like that.
As for the hand...the flop action is certainly very tough versus his perceived range of SC,PPs and high PPs (does he play a high PP like this?), but you are getting a good price and he doesn't know you are as strong as QQ. |
I agree. A call here invites all kinds of hands to come in and beat you. You simply have to re-raise to isolate.
As for the flop play, it's a tough call. Absolutely nothing wrong with laying it down, but it's read dependent.
Posted Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:11 am GMT by Ciso_B
The way you played it (i.e. goofy). I dont mind the fold post flop, but you can see where you made the error now and learn from it. If you re raised pre flop, got only a call you know Qs are good and get all of AJhs money post flop.
Posted Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:28 am GMT by TheSalche
| UrAteUp wrote: | I can see no reason why you didn't call that flop push. Your only behind pre-flop of two hands. AA and KK.
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i can see a set of 8s or 9s here too ... thats what i was thinking
other slim possibility is mega draw of jack 10 hearts, but not as likely as a set
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