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Posted Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:29 pm GMT by nixon
I've never considered myself a great online player, but I could always make $50 last me about 6 months. I was playing a SNG with 10 players, I think there were 8 of us left. Blinds were still at 10-20, I look down at AA and raise to 140. I get one caller, a raise, and a re-reaise. Simple decision, I go all in, call, call, call. Typical low money SNG betting, but I thought I was sitting in good position. We all flip our cards, there's a 55, KK, and another AA on the board. The turn card is K and 3 of us were out.
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Posted Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:46 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
I don't see your point? the fact that your All in got called by AA and KK (ok the 55 call was suspect but i don't know the details?) Or the fact that a K hit or what?
Or maybe you don't think that you would get called by AA and KK in a live game?
Or maybe you think the K would never hit live?
So, why exactly would this be the internet's fault?
Altho I do think if you don't feel comfortable playng on the internet then you definately shouldn't!
Posted Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:00 pm GMT by nixon
It's just a combination of a lot of things, and I guess that was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I guess I've never trusted the algorythms used in online poker. I know four people having hands like that is not an impossiblility, but it is highly improbable. As for the hand itself, the guy with the KK was the first to re-raise me, then he was re-raised, then I re-raised all-in. If you're holding KK and you have 2 re-raisers in front of you, do you put all your money into the pot? I would have to think long and hard about it, but I'm not sure I can make that call. Or does the fact that you only paid $6 to play make that call easier? I dunno. I certainly don't have the bankroll to play big entry fee games all the time, but I've played in several live tournaments and I just like the live game better.
Posted Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:04 pm GMT by MasterShake
| nixon wrote: | | It's just a combination of a lot of things, and I guess that was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I guess I've never trusted the algorythms used in online poker. I know four people having hands like that is not an impossiblility, but it is highly improbable. As for the hand itself, the guy with the KK was the first to re-raise me, then he was re-raised, then I re-raised all-in. If you're holding KK and you have 2 re-raisers in front of you, do you put all your money into the pot? I would have to think long and hard about it, but I'm not sure I can make that call. Or does the fact that you only paid $6 to play make that call easier? I dunno. I certainly don't have the bankroll to play big entry fee games all the time, but I've played in several live tournaments and I just like the live game better. |
You're right. It is highly improbable. How many times has it happened to you?
Posted Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:06 pm GMT by Geno
Seriously, if I can hit running 5s on the turn and river (at 800 to 1 odds) to make quads in a live game, anything is possible 
Posted Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:12 pm GMT by Miss_J
| Geno wrote: | | Seriously, if I can hit running 5s on the turn and river (at 800 to 1 odds) to make quads in a live game, anything is possible |
i did that exact thing with 4's yeasterday on a live tournament. it was superb.
Posted Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:35 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| nixon wrote: | | It's just a combination of a lot of things, and I guess that was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I guess I've never trusted the algorythms used in online poker. I know four people having hands like that is not an impossiblility, but it is highly improbable. As for the hand itself, the guy with the KK was the first to re-raise me, then he was re-raised, then I re-raised all-in. If you're holding KK and you have 2 re-raisers in front of you, do you put all your money into the pot? I would have to think long and hard about it, but I'm not sure I can make that call. Or does the fact that you only paid $6 to play make that call easier? I dunno. I certainly don't have the bankroll to play big entry fee games all the time, but I've played in several live tournaments and I just like the live game better. |
Dude can't blame internet poker for this kind of a bad beat. Yes it does happen live too.
The fact that KK raiserd you just shouldn't surprise you. How was he to know you had AA. He most likely put you on AX and really wanted to know where he stood. He most likely figured your all-in move was some internet donk pushing with a PP, pp or AK. The fact that you got beat shouldn't surprise you because AA is not the nut hand no matter how good the odds say it will win. Don't let one hand decide if your going to keep playing online poker or not.
Posted Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:59 pm GMT by 1988 TR
Yes, you should quit.
Posted Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:06 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
If I have KK v AA then I am pretty much going broke every time, whether it's $6 buy in or $6000 but that's beside the point.
If you have doubts about internet sites' RNG's or even if you just don't feel comfy about it, then seriously, don't do it.
Poker is f*cked up enough without having doubts about the place your playing too 
Posted Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:14 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
Another thing you mentioned was the "typical low limit betting" with the 4 all ins, I know what you mean, I would actually be pretty surprised that all 4 had such good hands compared to some of the sh*t i've seen in 4-way all in's at lower limits
But then again, low limit live games are very loose too, most $1/$2 NL cash games are pretty tight online, compare that to the multi-way pots in your average $1/$2 NL games in Vegas or wherever.
Posted Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:40 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
Online poker is not rigged.... The poker sites make PLENTY of money through rake, they don't need to rig the game too.
Posted Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:31 pm GMT by mindgame
Playing live in a cash NL game on Saturday for 5 hours (and seeing amature dealers get, maybe, 20 or 25 hands out an hour) I was involved in the following:
My JJ on the button put a wild player all-in. This time he had AA. I bust.
My 10 10 in the big blind make the first raise. I'm raised again and then re-raised by the button. I fold. Those two? AA and KK.
I fold my 88 pre-flop after my button raise of $50 get raised twice back at me by two limpers: they had 99 and JJ.
I'm NOT in the hand that had KK, AKs, and QQ: Three guys all-in.
And if that little old lady dealing with arthritic hands was a mechanic, I'm glad I never met her in her prime.
Posted Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:07 pm GMT by ninetensuited
improbable yes....but 2006 WSOP ME, need i say more. shit happens, live and play another day
Posted Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:46 pm GMT by xhi
Under the scenario you describe if an A came on the turn then even I would say its rigged and quit online play (at least at that site).
Posted Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:13 pm GMT by lwestatbus
Anything can happen with enough hands. My favorite, since I came out a winner:
Live casino FL Holdem. I have AA and raise, raised behind me and reraised/capped behind him. Original bettors call.
Flop comes AKQ rainbow--betting caps.
Turn is a blank--betting caps.
River is another blank--betting caps.
I had AA, next guy had KK, last guy had QQ. Whoooeeee.
Looking at xhi's post reminds me of a story from the same venue: Flop included 8 . One of the players says, "Wait a minute," and lays down another 8 from his hole cards.
Posted Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:32 pm GMT by jimmer
Don't get your knickers in a twist. Pocket Aces doesn't guarentee you a winning hand. Sooner or later you will get beaten by 84 or 72. In your case it was sooner.
Let me tell you a story. I'm playing poker last night and get dealt pockets 33. I'm UTG, but the tables really tight, so I raise. everyone folds to the SB who calls. The BB calls aswell.
The flop is 38J. The SB and BB check. I bet the pot, the SB raises, BB folds, I re-raise, SB goes all-in, i call.
He shows pocket Jacks. I'm screwed. We'll, I was screwed until the river shows a 3. He gets a Full House, I get Quads.
Now do you think he's pissed???? He's thinking the same as you.
I don't just realise I'm lucky, I realise that this was the quickest 132 bucks I've ever made, (& more importantly) ever likely too.
Don't beat yourself up. Just realise poker is not easy. No one ever said it was.
Nows the time to make a decision. You either curl up in the corner and never play again, or you learn from your mistakes a become bigger and better. I suggest option 2.
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