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US players and the port security bill



Posted Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:25 pm GMT by ninetensuited
I think we are all overacting to this thing. We are all going to find some way to play or another. I guess maybe im just in a better situation than most, since im military i can request to go overseas and be fine with it. But according to Card Player, all that is being banned is sites with casinos. I just think we are all overacting.


Gid


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Posted Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:32 pm GMT by General Sal
ninetensuited wrote:
I think we are all overacting to this thing. We are all going to find some way to play or another. I guess maybe im just in a better situation than most, since im military i can request to go overseas and be fine with it. But according to Card Player, all that is being banned is sites with casinos. I just think we are all overacting.


Gid


Only sites with casinos are being banned? hmm.... do you have a link to this article? Kind of interested in looking at that one.



Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:50 am GMT by shorn7
Sure, we will all find a way and a place to play. That isn't the issue. The issue is that now many of the recreational players (fish) that we play against won't bother to take the extra steps to play. Therefore, all the games will be much tougher to beat and much less profitable.


Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:12 am GMT by mackkie
So the word 'fish' only applies to bad american players? I know we make up a huge chunk on the online poker market, but there will still be plenty of fish from all over the world on these sites.


Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:56 am GMT by Sean_in_NJ
mackkie wrote:
So the word 'fish' only applies to bad american players? I know we make up a huge chunk on the online poker market, but there will still be plenty of fish from all over the world on these sites.


80% of online players are from the US. If you make the assumption that most of the players you will lose in this crackdown are in the bad-to-average range, and I think this is a pretty fair assumption since the people with the real motivation to stay are those that are already profitable, then you've removed a large amount of "easy" money from the market.

If we can agree on that, then I'll posit that you lose even MORE players when the average-to-good players start to leave because a) win rates have dropped and b) extra costs associated with alternate means of fund transfers (and there will be some) begin to eat into the rest. For someone like myself who is only a little better than breakeven as an online player, it's clear to me that what little profitability I may have had is rapidly eroding.

I've already cashed out and have no intention of redepositing without a poker exemption to the gambling act.



Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:32 am GMT by khaosanroad
but the compulsive gambler wil find a way whether he's good or not.


Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:48 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
khaosanroad wrote:
but the compulsive gambler wil find a way whether he's good or not.


I'd say compulsive gamblers are much less common than the guy who occasionally deposits 50-100$ every couple months and always loses it. At least at the lower stakes.

I'm pretty sure the higher stakes will be affected a lot less than the micro and low levels will be.



Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:34 pm GMT by jimmer
khaosanroad wrote:
but the compulsive gambler wil find a way whether he's good or not.
a compulsive gambler won't waste his time TRYING to find away, he'll just move on to something else.


Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:02 pm GMT by ORGrinder
not ture. i know of at least one poker only site that has banned us players. i'm sure there's others that i'm just not aware of.

ninetensuited wrote:
I think we are all overacting to this thing. We are all going to find some way to play or another. I guess maybe im just in a better situation than most, since im military i can request to go overseas and be fine with it. But according to Card Player, all that is being banned is sites with casinos. I just think we are all overacting.


Gid



Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:11 pm GMT by ninetensuited
general sal, it was on Cardplayer.com there was a link on twoplustwo





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