A Couple Of Hands That Broke Me Last Night |
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Posted Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:00 pm GMT by ComedyBee
Do you have any comments on these hands here, thanks.
Hand 1
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Full Tilt Poker Game #1067553354: Table Tara - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:36:00 ET - 2006/10/04
Seat 1: DashingDrew ($2.15), is sitting out
Seat 2: ed4funfun ($2.55)
Seat 3: rodge79 ($10.10)
Seat 4: CrustyFace ($8.35)
Seat 5: taxitall ($24.60)
Seat 6: jschmidty213 ($0.90)
Seat 7: mk3veedub ($9.15)
Seat 9: JigneshPatel ($9.10)
JigneshPatel posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CrustyFace  
rodge79: nb
DashingDrew: two pair
ed4funfun calls $0.10
tankenka sits down
tankenka adds $4
rodge79 folds
CrustyFace raises to $0.40
DashingDrew stands up
taxitall raises to $0.70
jschmidty213 folds
mk3veedub folds
taxitall: just messing around
JigneshPatel folds
ed4funfun folds
CrustyFace calls $0.30
*** FLOP ***   
CrustyFace checks
taxitall: am sitting in a bar on a wireless broadband and starting to feel good
taxitall bets $2
CrustyFace raises to $7.65, and is all in
taxitall calls $5.65
CrustyFace shows
taxitall shows  
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER *** 
CrustyFace shows a pair of Kings
taxitall shows three of a kind, Kings
taxitall wins the pot ($15.25) with three of a kind, Kings
CrustyFace is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $16.90 | Rake $1.65
Board:
Seat 1: DashingDrew is sitting out
Seat 2: ed4funfun folded before the Flop
Seat 3: rodge79 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: CrustyFace showed and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: taxitall showed and won ($15.25) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 6: jschmidty213 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: mk3veedub (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: JigneshPatel (big blind) folded before the Flop
Hand 2
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Full Tilt Poker Game #1067623096: Table Hills Center - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:55:38 ET - 2006/10/04
Seat 1: Buzz6661 ($3.30)
Seat 2: Beech Bum ($5.45)
Seat 3: RiverMeKing ($20.35)
Seat 4: CHRISDA1NONLY ($0), is sitting out
Seat 5: CrustyFace ($10.25)
Seat 6: billvolio ($9.75)
Seat 7: NU66ETT ($3.70)
Seat 8: beau455 ($8.45)
Seat 9: cbxpher ($4)
beau455 posts the small blind of $0.05
cbxpher posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CrustyFace
Buzz6661 folds
Beech Bum folds
RiverMeKing calls $0.10
CrustyFace raises to $0.20
billvolio folds
NU66ETT folds
beau455 folds
cbxpher folds
RiverMeKing calls $0.10
*** FLOP ***   
RiverMeKing checks
CrustyFace bets $0.20
RiverMeKing raises to $0.40
CrustyFace calls $0.20
*** TURN *** 
RiverMeKing checks
CrustyFace checks
*** RIVER ***
RiverMeKing checks
CrustyFace bets $1.35
RiverMeKing raises to $12.70
CrustyFace calls $8.30, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $3.05 returned to RiverMeKing
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RiverMeKing shows   (three of a kind, Threes)
CrustyFace mucks
RiverMeKing wins the pot ($18.65) with three of a kind, Threes
CrustyFace is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $20.65 | Rake $2
Board:
Seat 1: Buzz6661 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Beech Bum didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: RiverMeKing showed and won ($18.65) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 4: CHRISDA1NONLY is sitting out
Seat 5: CrustyFace mucked - two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 6: billvolio didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: NU66ETT (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: beau455 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: cbxpher (big blind) folded before the Flop
I feel i got unlucky here in both of these.
I'd like your views.
Thanks,
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Posted Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:12 pm GMT by Skribbles
Hand 1: Shit happens...
Hand 2: Fold pre-flop. After that, it was played horribly on every street.
Flop: Re-raise him.
Turn: Don't know why you are checking here...
River: Your two pair is worthless. Any ace has you beat.
Posted Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:13 pm GMT by ComedyBee
After 10 mins of thinking time it has occurred to me that really neither of these were bad luck in terms of being out drawn with slim odds by an idiot, but that i improved into a hand i didn't know already had me beat, pretty much.
These two hands both look hard to get away from.
What do you think?
Posted Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:16 pm GMT by ComedyBee
I ask my self the questions:
1) Why did he call to begin with, preflop?
2) Why did he raise me on the flop with bottom pair?
I checked the turn because i thought he might have an ace, part of me said that he also had nothing and raised with something like KQ.
On the river, i was in no doubt he had something, but after improving i thought i would have had him.
I certainly didnt expect him to flip over 23.
Posted Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:11 pm GMT by BBQSquirrel
Hand 1. Remember that villain reraised preflop which usually means a big hand. After he check raises you on the flop you know you are a huge dog (vs AA or AK) or there will be a split. Let the hand go while you haven't invested too much
Hand 2. As mentioned before you can't even beat any Ace. Use your position and check for a free showdown.
Hand 1 is more unlucky than hand 2. Both disasters could have been averted, however.
Posted Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:12 pm GMT by Jauron
Hand #2- Why miniraise with a marginal hand like K10? Either raise or call.. Bet the flop like you mean it and if he reraises you I see no reason to go broke with the hand after the board pairs low, your two pair is not the likely winner there. Value betting with second pair after you got cute preflop is not sound play IMO.
Hand #1- Although you were probable to go broke there I have no idea why you'd smooth call preflop and then check that flop with the intention of check raising all in. What is going to call you down that you have beat besides MAYBE KQ. (unless this guy is crazy)
Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:09 pm GMT by 1988 TR
Hand 1, not much to say there. Just poker.
Hand 2 - Not sure what you are doing there... There are so many ways to be beat. You can't beat any ace or any 3 and there is a straight out there. Calling all in with 2nd pair.... You can't go broke there.... There was just no reason for it.
Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:16 pm GMT by MasterShake
Hand 1, you just got unlucky.
Hand 2, he played it bad, but you played it worse. This is definitely one of those 'learn from your mistakes' kinds of hands.
Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:24 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| ComedyBee wrote: |
These two hands both look hard to get away from.
What do you think? |
I really think you need to rethink that.... You can't get away from 2nd pair with an ace on the board??
Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:27 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| ComedyBee wrote: |
On the river, i was in no doubt he had something, but after improving i thought i would have had him.
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Since the board was paired, you didn't really improve much.... You still had 2nd pair. Instead of 10's, you had K's... That is a marginal improvement at best. If the board wasn't paired, I can see you going to battle with 2 pair, but losing all your chips with 2nd pair by CALLING an all in, you need to learn from that.
Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:41 pm GMT by Ryan_j37
First hand i probably reraise him preflop. If he just smooth calls this you know if we hit the flop we have a hand that beats him. If we get reraised big you can safely lay it down. This is assuming villian is just a abc poker player. Flop, he wont call your all in with any hand you beat so the all in is not a good move.
Second hand, KTo is trash and easily dominated. Dont play this in a full ring game.
Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:53 pm GMT by ComedyBee
Well i'll try to learn from the second one then.
Cheers guys. I guess this is why you play, to learn  .
CB
Posted Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:00 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| ComedyBee wrote: | Well i'll try to learn from the second one then.
Cheers guys. I guess this is why you play, to learn .
CB |
Yep, yep!
I am constantly reading Poker books & have over 20 books from Hold Em to Omaha. Never stop learning!!!
Posted Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:08 pm GMT by MrDarling
Hand1 - as soon as someone type the kind of crap he types I know he has a monster... however, I agree, it will be hard to get away from what seems like a monster. But I agree about reraising preflop. How dare he reraise an AK  If he reraised again, I'll probably lay it down preflop. (at least I hope I would)
Hand2 , what they said.
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