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Posted Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:00 pm GMT by Jauron
I'll post a hand history to illustrate this, but when he did it I knew he had a small or med pair 2's-8's because I've seen this move too many times. What I don't understand is why do they do it?
I wasn't involved in this hand so no secret patting myself on the back post.
PokerStars Game #6630606738: Tournament #33277627,
Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/10/14 - 12:53:28 (ET)
Table '33277627 9' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Tactful Tony (14500 in chips)
Seat 2: BAP3BAP4 (5185 in chips)
Seat 3: Jauron (13005 in chips)
Seat 4: chadmony (4290 in chips)
Seat 5: Lombardo21 (9090 in chips)
Seat 6: Asadz (18780 in chips)
Seat 7: the_pounge (14505 in chips)
Seat 8: TSlothrup (4990 in chips)
Seat 9: islocompulo (4785 in chips)
chadmony: posts small blind 15
Lombardo21: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jauron  
Asadz: raises 60 to 90
the_pounge: folds
TSlothrup: folds
islocompulo: calls 90
Tactful Tony: raises 210 to 300
BAP3BAP4: folds
Jauron: folds
chadmony: folds
Lombardo21: folds
Asadz: calls 210
islocompulo: raises 4485 to 4785 and is all-in
Tactful Tony: folds
Asadz: calls 4485
*** FLOP ***   
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Asadz: shows   (a pair of Aces)
islocompulo: shows   (a pair of Eights)
Asadz collected 9915 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9915 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: Tactful Tony folded before Flop
Seat 2: BAP3BAP4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Jauron (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: chadmony (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Lombardo21 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Asadz showed and won (9915) with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: the_pounge folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: TSlothrup folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: islocompulo showed and lost with a pair of Eights
Always the same pattern, calls an early raise gets reraised behind them, EP smooth calls and MP goes nuts and pushes only to get called by either EP or LP and almost never do they hold anything better than 8's or 9's.
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Posted Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:18 am GMT by MrDarling
I'm also not crazy about this move, but would you have made the call with ATo knowing you are on a loosing race?
They are only a real dog to a higher pair and they are leading the race against any other two cards.
Posted Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:27 am GMT by Jefecaminador
I think thats the point.... They're trying to get heads up with a coin flip situation with some dead money in the pot....
Only problem is when you're up against QQ KK or AA.
Posted Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:49 pm GMT by ComedyBee
I see this kind of play in short handed and full handed micro NL games and i find that i cant beat these guys because i can only play great deals.
See my other post :/
Posted Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:38 pm GMT by snoogins47
I won't go into details about the play itself, or this specific case, but it's important to remember that the value of a hand can change very drastically depending on how the current street plays out, and when that happens, what you should be trying to make happen can change drastically as well.
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