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PLOH: Quality play out of me?



Posted Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:21 am GMT by mackkie
I know this guy for being kind of loose/chasing draws.

On this hand I figured him for AA or KK.

I am going to save you the suspense and post the entire hand and its outcome. I hope doing this will not effect the replies.

Full Tilt Poker Game #1103686279: Table Evora (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 1:15:33 ET - 2006/10/15
Seat 1: zlizard ($36.80)
Seat 2: Gor30 ($38.35)
Seat 3: temiko ($11.25)
Seat 5: huskerrific ($49.85)
Seat 6: dirtydago ($32.85)
temiko posts the small blind of $0.25
huskerrific posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Gor30 Five of SpadesAce of HeartsTwo of ClubsJack of Hearts
dirtydago folds
zlizard raises to $1.10
Gor30 calls $1.10
temiko calls $0.85
huskerrific calls $0.60
*** FLOP *** Jack of DiamondsSeven of ClubsTwo of Spades
temiko checks
huskerrific checks
zlizard bets $2.20
Gor30 raises to $7
temiko folds
huskerrific folds
zlizard calls $4.80
*** TURN *** Jack of DiamondsSeven of ClubsTwo of Spades Four of Hearts
zlizard checks
Gor30 bets $18.40
zlizard calls $18.40
JandM4life sits down
*** RIVER *** Jack of DiamondsSeven of ClubsTwo of SpadesFour of Hearts Five of Hearts
JandM4life adds $15.60
zlizard checks
Gor30 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Gor30 shows Five of SpadesAce of HeartsTwo of ClubsJack of Hearts (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
zlizard shows Nine of SpadesTen of HeartsEight of HeartsKing of Clubs (King Jack high)
Gor30 wins the pot ($52.45) with two pair, Jacks and Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $55.20 | Rake $2.75
Board: Jack of DiamondsSeven of ClubsTwo of SpadesFour of HeartsFive of Hearts
Seat 1: zlizard showed Nine of SpadesTen of HeartsEight of HeartsKing of Clubs and lost with King Jack high
Seat 2: Gor30 (button) showed Five of SpadesAce of HeartsTwo of ClubsJack of Hearts and won ($52.45) with two pair, Jacks and Fives
Seat 3: temiko (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: huskerrific (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: dirtydago didn't bet (folded)


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Posted Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:49 am GMT by Jefecaminador
well. I prolly bet river as well, since you have both a decent high hand and a lo. It would be hard for him to both beat your high and have a lo as well, so you might as well bet and try to force him off one of them, in case you would be splitting. Other than that, pretty much a non-descript hand.


Posted Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:57 am GMT by mackkie
Other than the fact that I am not playing hi/lo, just hi.


Posted Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:31 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
I have no idea why he'd call with a bad wrap draw on the turn for such a big bet. You certainly had to know the turn card probably didn't help him, but after he called that raise on the flop I might freeze a little, because Jacks and Deuces is not a very good hand in Omaha at all, although two pair gains some value short-handed.

In general, though, I don't like playing a hand like yours against a raise, and I really, REALLY don't like getting involved in big pots with two pair, particularly when it's not even top two pair.



Posted Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:10 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
mackkie wrote:
Other than the fact that I am not playing hi/lo, just hi.


Oh, I saw you called a raise with A2, automatically assumed it was hi/lo.

In that case, if its just hi.... really loose call preflop. And I think you were being way too aggressive post flop. 2 pair is a marginal hand in omaha hi. Checking river is a good call.



Posted Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:50 am GMT by MrDarling
I agree with the above. I had him on a set at least.

Thing is, in low levels you often have fish who would play like it like omaha (him) but that doesn't mean you have to play any 4 card and play two pairs like it is the nuts!

This kind will make you lose much money if someone serious sits on the table.
I know, I lost a lot there Smile



Posted Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:28 pm GMT by mackkie
You are totally correct, it was a loose call and then I just went with my read on him after that...I prob should have just avioded the situation completely.

PLOH has been profitable for me since ive started playing, but i think i really need read up on quality starting hands, etc. I feel like after the flop i can play pretty well, but pre-flop I am really loose.



Posted Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:20 am GMT by crack
It's ok gambooooling it up preflop, but not with shit like that. It;s a safe fold preflop.





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