At what point do I slow down here? |
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Posted Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:21 pm GMT by witt10s
LIMIT hand
I am not getting away from this hand in Limit, but when do I start to just call down with this hand.
Is raising the river a bad idea at this point?
I have seen much worse hands shown down for more money in $1/2 limit at stars.
Only read on VILLAIN so far was a few hands ago he called down a preflop raiser and another caller to the river with middle pair even when an ace flopped up.
All comments welcome for all streets.
PokerStars Game #6643722120: Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/10/15 - 14:44:48 (ET)
Table 'Aaryn' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: TomWy ($20 in chips)
Seat 2: Woogle ($16.75 in chips)
Seat 3: ErnDog09 ($10 in chips)
Seat 4: rochild ($33 in chips)
Seat 5: ToEachAZone ($40 in chips)
Seat 6: PokerRhino ($99.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Debonair ($25 in chips)
Seat 8: HERO ($97 in chips)
Seat 9: unit4 ($19.50 in chips)
Seat 10: VILLAIN ($21.25 in chips)
Manastash: posts small blind $0.50
TomWy: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO  
Woogle: folds
ErnDog09: folds
rochild: folds
ToEachAZone: folds
PokerRhino: calls $1
Debonair: folds
HERO: raises $1 to $2
unit4: folds
VILLAIN: raises $1 to $3
TomWy: folds
PokerRhino: calls $2
HERO: calls $1
*** FLOP ***   
VILLAIN: bets $1
PokerRhino: calls $1
HERO: calls $1
*** TURN *** 
VILLAIN: bets $2
PokerRhino: calls $2
HERO: raises $2 to $4
VILLAIN: raises $2 to $6
PokerRhino: folds
HERO: raises $2 to $8
Betting is capped
VILLAIN: calls $2
*** RIVER *** 
VILLAIN: bets $2
HERO: raises $2 to $4
VILLAIN: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO: shows (three of a kind, Queens)
VILLAIN: shows   (three of a kind, Aces)
VILLAIN collected $38 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $39 | Rake $1
Board
Seat 1: TomWy (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Woogle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ErnDog09 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: rochild folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ToEachAZone folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: PokerRhino folded on the Turn
Seat 7: Debonair folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: HERO showed and lost with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 9: unit4 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: VILLAIN (small blind) showed and won ($38.00) with three of a kind, Aces
I guess I should be glad this was Limit.
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Posted Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:33 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Not much you can do when it's set over set, although I probably would have lost more by capping pre-flop and raising the flop, which I think is still a slightly better play.
Overall, though, you played it fine.
Posted Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:39 pm GMT by MJJ
Where is the post by URAteUp telling you to raise more preflop? He always thinks it's NL...
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<smart ass settings off>
Posted Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:02 am GMT by witt10s
haha, yeah the bold and underline were very intentional.
So say I dont wait until the turn to raise and the flop gets capped. Do I cap the turn as well?
Posted Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:20 pm GMT by MrDarling
10 time out of 9 yes.
on the flop and turn only one hand beats you (the one he happened to have)
AK,AQ or a smaller set will play it the same and the are almost drawing dead against you.
Posted Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:37 pm GMT by Jauron
The only place I would have considered slowing down is the river, but I'm not a big FL guy and I probably still end up reraising most of the time.
No way can we put him on AA here IMO, especially with what he's shown before.
Posted Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:45 pm GMT by UrAteUp
MJJ...buddy...bite me... . I saw this was limit even before I read the hand history and your comment... .
This hand is one of those hands your destined to go broke on. Be it FL or NL this is a money sucker and I really see no way for you to get away from it.
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