Posted Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:21 pm GMT by Nqon
Full Tilt Poker Game #1144005203: Table Sierra - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:58:16 ET - 2006/10/24
Seat 1: JHarr1219 ($109.75)
Seat 2: Mike Serrano ($101.85)
Seat 3: FoRSt4StGumP22 ($98.40)
Seat 4: Joseph Weil ($147.90)
Seat 5: greenbean13 ($38.15)
Seat 6: MstAA mAArtini ($32.10)
Seat 7: Nqon ($103.30)
Seat 8: moromel ($35.35)
Seat 9: RICHOHAA ($41.95)
MstAA mAArtini posts the small blind of $0.50
Nqon posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Nqon  
moromel calls $1
RICHOHAA folds
JHarr1219 raises to $3.75
Mike Serrano calls $3.75
FoRSt4StGumP22 folds
Joseph Weil calls $3.75
greenbean13 calls $3.75
MstAA mAArtini has 15 seconds left to act
MstAA mAArtini is sitting out
MstAA mAArtini has timed out
MstAA mAArtini folds
Nqon calls $2.75
moromel calls $2.75
*** FLOP ***   
Nqon checks
moromel checks
MstAA mAArtini has returned
JHarr1219 bets $12
Mike Serrano calls $12
Joseph Weil folds
greenbean13 folds
Nqon: ??
I entered this ring 10 hands earlier. Alot of pre-flop action going on and rather large pots. I know the preflop call was kind thin, and i know im out of position. But these guys obviously didnt hit anything, so im putting them on high pairs and overcards.
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Posted Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:57 pm GMT by aaronw
If my math is correct there is approximately $50 in the pot. Getting just over 4:1 on your money. I would call this bet and see what happens on the turn.
Posted Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:52 pm GMT by Nqon
Nqon calls $12
moromel folds
*** TURN *** 
Nqon bets $8
JHarr1219 raises to $24
Mike Serrano calls $24
Nqon ??
Call or Raise? I dont know why, but im very scared of a T9 on this.
Posted Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:54 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
This is what you were playing for.... you hit the card you wanted, now push it.
Posted Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:42 pm GMT by aaronw
| Jefecaminador wrote: | | This is what you were playing for.... you hit the card you wanted, now push it. |
I concur with this statement. There is no reason for you to call the flop, hit your card on the turn and then fold. So I would recommend pushing the turn. Also, on the flop, you said you thought they had overpairs or overcards so why put them on T9 now? Don't get in the habit of just putting your opponent on the nuts just because its possible. Its possible one has a set and another has an over pair. You never know. In conclusion, you hit the card you wanted, now push. How did it turn out?
Posted Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:49 pm GMT by khaosanroad
Gotta push. Even if he has 9T you still have a couple outs.
Posted Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:40 am GMT by Nqon
Nqon calls $16
*** RIVER *** 
Nqon bets $9
JHarr1219 calls $9
Mike Serrano calls $9
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Nqon shows (a straight, Nine high)
JHarr1219 mucks
Mike Serrano mucks
Nqon wins the pot ($155) with a straight, Nine high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $158 | Rake $3
Board:
Seat 1: JHarr1219 mucked   - a pair of Kings
Seat 2: Mike Serrano mucked   - two pair, Sevens and Sixes
Seat 3: FoRSt4StGumP22 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Joseph Weil folded on the Flop
Seat 5: greenbean13 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: MstAA mAArtini (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: Nqon (big blind) showed and won ($155) with a straight, Nine high
Seat 8: moromel folded on the Flop
Seat 9: RICHOHAA didn't bet (folded)
Now here's where i think i made a mistake. I dont mind the call, its just that afterwards i regret raising just 9, thinking that i could stilll get them on for something like 20 or 40...
Posted Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:40 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Wow. To tell you the truth, I'm amazed your hand was good after a big raise and a flat call on the turn. Talk about two guys who can't take a hint from the board...
Posted Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:28 am GMT by ScanX
calling a raise w/ J9o vs 4 players (and potentially 5) in big blind...you seriously are begging for trouble.
Posted Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:05 am GMT by cayouche
NH, but for future reference, fold J9o preflop.
Posted Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:41 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Personally I don't see a big problem calling with J9 here as long as you're a decent post-flop player--I'd guess I probably had a split or a loss on that turn though.
Posted Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:50 pm GMT by ScanX
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | | Personally I don't see a big problem calling with J9 here as long as you're a decent post-flop player--I'd guess I probably had a split or a loss on that turn though. |
it'll usually be very hard to play it strong unless u flop a monster. (and u need a lot to flop a monster with that hand)
otherwise u're reduced to play it passively hoping u get pot odds for your straight draw (cant even hope for flush draw).
not very profitable in the long run imo
Posted Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:54 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
I agree Scan, but with 4 other people in my goal is to hit the flop that will break one of them and lay it down if I don't.
Posted Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:49 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | | I agree Scan, but with 4 other people in my goal is to hit the flop that will break one of them and lay it down if I don't. |
The question here is when do you lay it down (what street) and how much is it going to cost you?
If your getting drawings odds and someone is pricing you to take the draw then by all means I agree, take it. However, if your not getting a good price and only something like 2:1 or 3:1 then you might as well lay this down because it will cost you to chase and if you don't hit then your wasting alot of good chips.
Posted Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:23 pm GMT by 1988 TR
| Nqon wrote: |
But these guys obviously didnt hit anything, so im putting them on high pairs and overcards. |
Why is it obvious they didn't hit anything? LOL
Posted Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:55 pm GMT by ScanX
| 1988 TR wrote: | | Nqon wrote: |
But these guys obviously didnt hit anything, so im putting them on high pairs and overcards. |
Why is it obvious they didn't hit anything? LOL |
Posted Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:56 pm GMT by ScanX
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | | I agree Scan, but with 4 other people in my goal is to hit the flop that will break one of them and lay it down if I don't. |
I see what u want to do and I dunno the math but I still dont like it soz :)
if they were sooooooted then no prob for me though
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