Posted Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:28 pm GMT by Nqon
Its the last round in a small sit and go... and where heads up.
Full Tilt Poker Game #1162391878: Tier One $4+$0.40 Sit & Go (7960253), Table 1 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:23:37 ET - 2006/10/28
Seat 1: Nqon (6,890)
Seat 6: slabs101 (6,610)
slabs101 posts the small blind of 100
Nqon posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Nqon  
slabs101 calls 100
Nqon checks
*** FLOP ***   
Nqon checks
slabs101 checks
*** TURN *** 
Nqon checks
slabs101 checks
*** RIVER *** 
Nqon bets 1,200
slabs101 raises to 4,000
Nqon raises to 6,690, and is all in
slabs101 calls 2,410, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 280 returned to Nqon
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Nqon shows (two pair, Kings and Threes)
slabs101 shows   (two pair, Aces and Threes)
slabs101 wins the pot (13,220) with two pair, Aces and Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13,220 | Rake 0
Board:
Seat 1: Nqon (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 6: slabs101 (small blind) showed and won (13,220) with two pair, Aces and Threes
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Posted Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:15 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
poorly played on both ends....
Posted Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:17 pm GMT by Nqon
How come, there was alot of folding going on, one would raise pre-flop, the other one would fold, and when it came to showdown it meant that it was a highcard win and small pot. And since almost all pots (all infact) was won with highest pair (as they usually do in heads up), you couldnt win much here with alot of raising.
Please explain why it was a poor play?
Posted Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:41 pm GMT by aaronw
| Nqon wrote: | | Please explain why it was a poor play? |
You limped in PF. You should usually raise with these hands. You didn't bet on the flop, which was draw heavy. You still didn't bet on the turn. And on the river after he re-raises you, you should probably just call. I don't believe any better hands are folding and no worse hands are going to call.
Posted Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:18 am GMT by Jefecaminador
it was poorly played because the last card paired the board on the bottom pair. And since there was absolutely no action before the river, the only play that makes sense on is a pair of 3's. Pretty much any other hand would be raising before that.
So basically what I'm saying is, in order to be raising here the guy either had to have nothing or 3 of a kind. The same process should of been crossing the other guys mind.... either you have nothing or 3 of a kind. In which case calling is the correct answer... not raising. Because if you are ahead, the guy is folding, and if you are behind, your opponent is rasing and you're forced to call.
I mean, you're not slowplaying top or middle pair here on 2 streets.... no way. Theres nothing you should think that you're beating that will call a reraise... And theres nothing he should be thinking that he can beat besides bluff after you raise.
Niether raise nor reraise makes sense to me.
Posted Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:53 pm GMT by Nqon
thanks for explaining... i see that im a moron now...
Posted Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:12 am GMT by UtrechtSlim
I don't see how this constitutes a bad beat. AA had the lead from start to finish. Now if villain were holding a 3, it still wouldn't be a bad beat, since all the money went in on the River, at which point he would have completed his set.
KK vs AA is usually a nightmare scenario and in heads-up it can easily be the scenario you go broke on..
Posted Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:13 am GMT by supafrey
it's not a bad beat.
"always raising preflop" with KK HU isn't necessarily sound advice, either.
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