Posted Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:39 pm GMT by ComedyBee
I can't be the only player that suffers from this...
Alot of the time my sessions come to an end with me at a small loss, say 3% or 4% of my BR. This is because i often play well for an hour or so, maybe even double my buy-in, only to lose most or all of it on one hand by making a mistake. Now i know that this is the danger with NLH, but do any of you have any tips on how to prevent this.
I simply don't think about a hand enough and make a stupid move, a move that i know was wrong immediately after it.
The only ideas i can come up with are to play for only limited amounts of time and if i double my BR to leave the table. How do you guys maintain the constant correct decision making. I can do it for prolonged periods of time, but tend to ruin everything in a single hand.
I figure that playing $0.05/$0.10 a good days play would be a $5 profit. If i could do this almost every day then i would soon be at the next level. But it seems stupid to me to quit for the day when i have made a certain amount, certainly if i feel good at a table.
But feeling good and playing well a a table can be turned over on any one hand where i have a brainfart and blow it.
Any thoughts on how i should proceed. Maybe i should adopt a very strict BR management technique to improve my discipline. Like leave the table if i double up.
CB
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Posted Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:56 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
If you're prone to sloppy play after building up a big amount then I think that it would be a wise move to cash out after you double up.
The aim of the game is to make money, and to do that, you have to play to your strengths and cover up your weaknesses. If you can't fix your bad play with big stack, then simply don't play one. Just take your winnings off the table and find a new one to play on.
Posted Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:04 pm GMT by ComedyBee
I've decided that i'm going to limit my session length to say 1 or 2 hours.
Posted Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:30 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
So wait... Do you play poorly with a big stack, or after playing for a couple of hours. Because those are 2 entirely different problems.
Posted Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:35 pm GMT by ComedyBee
I find that my downfall is that i get dealt a decent hand, say AJs, in decent position, and decide that i should probably win with it. This means i have predecided that i will be aggressive without taking into account my chances of being beaten. It usually ends up with me calling a large raise or all-in when subconsiously i know im beat.
Posted Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:51 pm GMT by tame_deuces
Imagine the biggest pot you have won due to sheer stupidity of your opponent. Now recall what you thought of said opponent. Now imagine yourself being that guy.
Just chill man, poker is at rare occasions about doing smart stuff, but its mostly about not doing stupid stuff. Bad plays -> bad poker -> bad poker player, and you want to be a good poker player no?
And I also get the impression that you look at a stack as something precious, well it isn't...stacks come and go, losing a few stacks or winning a few stacks shouldn't even be a concern. In a session I'll frequently go quite a few stacks down and then quite a few stacks up. Mostly in situations where I figure I'm 50/50 but have a share in the pot + I absolutely love a good coinflip (I never get the guys who want better than 50/50, if there is some money in the pot 50/50 is absolutely awesome). And I have a very healthy low stakes NL win rate, so I have to be doing something right, well...probably so.
Posted Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:37 am GMT by Ryan_j37
Leaving just because youve made a profit is not really a good idea. If the game becomes unprofitable or youve had enough then its a good idea to just get out. If you leave when ever you double up you'l find yourself with a lot of short sessions where you win and long sessions where you lose. Maybe the reason you do what you said you did with AJs is that your bored because your not getting enough hands to play. Then maybe playing a couple of more tables would help.
Posted Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:07 am GMT by MrDarling
I know what you are talking about.
Recently I discovered the aggressor in me, I sit in a table and shortly become a raging maniac stealing pots left and right and center and slowly double my buyin. But same as you, sometimes I risk all my stack without anything to show for it.
Since I mostly play tired , I decided to slow down. Once I'm up, I wont call an allin without thinking about it. Sounds obvious, however usually when you're in the heat of things, you simply click call without taking into account that Mister Rock didn't play a hand for an hour and suddenly go allin on a rag flop where you flopped TPTK...
Since I mostly play tired I also do put an upper limit but more importantly a low limit on my stack (ie I leave if my stack get lower then $X or higher then $Y)
Posted Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:04 am GMT by pm_french
| ComedyBee wrote: | | I've decided that i'm going to limit my session length to say 1 or 2 hours. |
You should stay at the table as long as you feel:
A - You are making correct decisions. If someone at the table is causing you to freak out then move or if you are feeling tired then take breaks.
which leads onto (or maybe the same as):
B - You can beat the game to make money. If there are maniacs on there that are desperate to give you their money then why leave (though see A). There's been times (late at night or if I've got something else to do) when I've had to leave a table and I've been quite upset about it (not crying upset :D ) because there was money to be made there.
Poker is not about making money it is about making correct decisions based on the information you have (which in turn should mean you make money). We've all made some disasterous moves in the past which have profited us but try it again and you'll be in trouble.
Posted Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:15 pm GMT by jeffonline
I have a similar problem but mine goes like, ring games have no end unlike Sit and Goes, so its up to you to decide when enough is enough. I always have a figure in mind to win or loose at any one sitting. 100% of you buy-in is a great figure but hard to achieve on a regular basis, I set my goals lower but its not my intention to leave, when winning the set figure, I use this simple rule, risk only those winnings and protect my buy-in. do not go all-in with anything but the nuts. If I find I am folding to many hands because I have changed my game, its time to leave and take the profit, love that word profit, have a break, change games, eat, spend some time with the misses. Playing poker is about the money, keeping it is the hard part. Taking the profit is one of those correct decisions.
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