Live Hand that is Bugging Me |
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Posted Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:20 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
This hand was from a live 10 person SnG home game. My chipset is very large denoms, so don't be thrown by the betting amounts. I am just going to post the entire action, so let me know what you think.
Early in the SnG, when blinds were 1000/2000, I pick up A  Q  from MP. Villain and Hero's stacks are pretty even around 400,000.
Preflop
UTG raises to 6000
1 fold
UTG+2 calls (Villain)
2 folds
MP calls (Hero)
Folds around.
3 players to flop
FLOP:
A T 4 
UTG Checks
Villain bets 10,000
Hero RAISES to 25,000
UTG Folds
Villain MIN RERAISES to 50,000
Hero Calls
TURN:
7 
Villain bets 30,000
Hero Calls
RIVER:
J
Villain bets 60,000
Hero Calls
Showdown:
Villain shows A J and wins with two pair
Hero shows his hand in disgust.
My read on this player is that he is a pretty tight player, but aggressive when he picks up hands to protect them. So my read after the min reraise (which scared the hell out of me at first) was that he either had the two pair or a weaker Ace. If he had flopped a set, he would have been betting bigger to chase away flush draws. He was betting so small the entire time that the odds I was getting were almost too good to pass up. When he bet the river I said out loud "I think you either had two pair or you just rivered it".
What would you have done differently?
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Posted Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:48 pm GMT by supafrey
If I thought the person was losing or had a good chance of folding an AK, I'd probably push on the flop there.
Posted Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:16 pm GMT by Jauron
There are a number of things we could do differently here, a lot of them depend on the villain which you know better than us.
In a spot where we might have the best hand and are unsure enough to want to move in against a person who might make this move with something like TPGK our best move MIGHT be to just call down.
This is too villian dependant IMO to say otherwise. His smallish reraise suggests great strength but you called him anyway, I assume it was because he would do this with a wider range of hands than his reraise suggets. Tough river but what can you do?
Posted Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:06 pm GMT by Dat_Dude
I think my biggest mistake was the turn. The reason I actually called his min reraise was because I interpreted it was one of two things. 1) Great strength (flopped set or two pair) or 2) Weaker Ace.
My plan was to see what he did on the turn. If he had great strength, I think he would have bet large on the turn knowing how he likes to protect. He bet really small, which sort of told me he wasn't really strong. This is where I think I should have made a move at the pot. I don't think calling was the worst play, but it could've been better.
Posted Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:55 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
The min-raise is not weak on its own, but combined with the very small bet on the turn, this seems like massive weakness to me.
Either reraise the flop or raise the turn, of which I prefer the latter, because more information is available to you (and there is almost no conceivable way the turn could have helped villain). I think a good size raise (100k - 130k) either wins it or at least makes your play far better.
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