Posted Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:15 am GMT by jimmer
I'm in late position on a $0.10-$0.20 NLHE table and get dealt 8  7 . There are two early callers, I also call, so does the BB.
Four of us see the flop which is ace  7  8 
All three of them check. I bet the pot ($0.90). The two of them fold, the other calls.
The turn is a Ten They check.
Now, i see this as a weakness and bet $3. They then call again.
The river is a 3 They check. By this time I'm really confused. I think they're mabe playing an Ace with a good kicker, but am unsure so I decided to check.
He shows Ace Ten
Where did I go wrong? How would you of played the hand?
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Posted Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:55 am GMT by khaosanroad
SOunds okay to me. He thought he had a good hand and outdrew you, then was probably trying a check raise on the river , but you checked.
Posted Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:45 am GMT by shorn7
You played the hand fine. No reason to bet that river once this guy has made two strong calls. Even if he was drawing, he isn't calling a river bet anyway so you only get called on the river if you are beat.
The only slight adjustment you might make is to put in a preflop raise in LP with this type of hand every so often. That way, when you do flop a big hand (as you did), not only is it disguised but the pot is now bigger so any bets you make that are called will increase your earn when you win. I don't suggest making this raise all the time...maybe 20-30% of the time given the table conditions.
Otherwise, well played...just unlucky on the turn.
Posted Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:19 am GMT by Orcy
Just to reinforce what the 2 others said, you played the hand fine and I probably woulda played the exact same way.
that said you have to be able to recognize when you played fine even if you lose the hand. Try to not be too much result oriented. Poker have alot of variance, the goal is to try to maximize profit when you think you are ahead and minimize when you are behind.
On flop and turn you correctly though you were in front(given the action it was normal to think that even if you got behind on turn) then correctly checked behind on river. move on to next hand thinking you played well.
Posted Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:24 pm GMT by jimmer
cool, thanks guys.
I'm going through a really crap time at the mo. Can't seem to win at all. About a month ago I had about $500 and decided i needed to get to $1000 by christmas. Now I'm down to $448 and still losing!
I'm gradually playing tighter and tighter and still not winning. Therefore I've decided to spend a lot more time reviewing my losing hands. Over the next few weeks, I'm gonna be posting a few more.
Thanks again
Posted Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:11 pm GMT by shorn7
| Quote: | About a month ago I had about $500 and decided i needed to get to $1000 by christmas. Now I'm down to $448 and still losing!
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This could be part of the problem. You need to get to the point where you don't worry about the $$...only worry about making good decisions. If you do that, the money will come.
IMO, setting a $$ goal for such a short period of time will make you press a little and potentially do things you wouldn't do. Especially if the cards start running bad, goals like this will exacerbate the problem and could lead to bigger losses.
Good luck.
Shorn
Posted Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:00 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| jimmer wrote: | | I'm going through a really crap time at the mo. Can't seem to win at all. About a month ago I had about $500 and decided i needed to get to $1000 by christmas. Now I'm down to $448 and still losing! |
I'm confused. According to this thread, you had gone from $30 to $23.1K in four years, and had cashed out the majority of it to go to Egypt, leaving you with $200 to start over. I'm having trouble reconciling your claims in that post with your recent difficulties, especially at the levels you're playing now....
...yes...I'm calling SHENANIGANS!
SHENANIGANS!
Posted Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:19 am GMT by jimmer
| Sean_in_NJ wrote: | | I'm confused. According to this thread, you had gone from $30 to $23.1K in four years, and had cashed out the majority of it to go to Egypt, leaving you with $200 to start over. |
Yeah, this is the thing that is really annoying me the most. (I think it is also part of the problem.) I built up my bankroll to $23k then took out most of it to go to Egypt. When I came back from Egypt, I had to drop down to the $0.10-$0.20 NLHE cash tables. I then built it up to $662 within 6 days. I haven't been winning since. I dropped back down to around $500 and stayed there for a while, but now i've dropped to $448 and doubting my ability.
I think there are two key problems. The first is the levels I'm playing at. Before I could sometimes make a weeks wage in an hour. Now even if i win big, it's only $15-$20. The second reason is at the lower levels, lots of players are happy calling a pot sized bet, as it's only around $1. It also means that it's harder to place a probe or continuation bet, as the players are more likely to call.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming anyone else. This is all my fault. I just seem to of dug a big hole and can't get out. It's now been 13 weeks since a winning more than $3 in any session.
To a certain degree i feel embarassed talking about it. I thought i had the tools to progress. I really need to review what i do and how i do it.
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