Posted Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:55 am GMT by BMiller1980
First, let me start of by saying I'm usually a nice guy at the tables (online). I usually don't berate someone elses play and expect the same in return.
Last night in a SNG I was in the BB with KK. Mid position player raises and Late position reraises. I move all-in and am sad to see the late position raiser flip AA.
I proceed to hit a king on the river to win a big pot. I don't say anything and he gets pissed.
I said, "Can you blame me for pushing with KK?"
He replied "You hit a 2 outer!", "say sorry!"
I then came back, "I'm not sorry, I'm glad that I won the hand!"
I'm not one to say sorry if I don't mean it. I don't particularly want someone who gives me a bad beat to say it either. Is this the right way to think about the situation? I think for the guy to expect a "sorry" is a little bit rediculous. I just don't understand how you can play to win and apologize when you do. Luck is part of the game.
Any thoughts?
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Posted Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:10 pm GMT by MrDarling
I usually say sorry when I out suck someone. Especially if my move was real stupid (ie pushing with 2nd button NK and hitting 2nd pair or something) However lately I'm thinking, you want your opp to tilt. so by saying sorry you help him not to...
Posted Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:18 pm GMT by Dave B
Just reply, "hey, it was a coin flip". That will really turn the knife.
Posted Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:26 pm GMT by cayouche
I'm never sorry. Why would I be?? I want his money, just like everyone else's.
I will say sorry when I play against a friend, but even then, I rarely mean it.
For exemple, Monday night, I played at a friends game, 10 players. At one point, I had AA vs. KK allin preflop, and it held up. I said sorry, since I know she never would've folded KK preflop.
Later that night, I had A9 clubs, and I called a raise. Flop was J92, one club. OR bets half the pot, and I push all-in. He always always puts in continuation bets, I just wanted to test him, and I was wrong, since he turned 22 for a set. Runner-runner flush thank you very much. I didn't feel bad for winning, but I did feel bad for my friend, so I said sorry.
But that's about it.
Posted Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:37 pm GMT by BeerWench13
You're not obligated to say anything. The last time I was in that situation and hit my 2-outer I didn't say anything. The hubby was playing online last weekend and had QQ vs AA and caught quad Q's. He typed in "lucky me." There really is no reason to say that you're sorry. You know that you're not really.
I have said "sorry" to my sister when I sucked out on her or to a buddy or two when we've both made the right play and I've come out the victor, but I'm not sorry I won, I'm sorry that they lost.
I would ignore this person or, perhaps, as is my smartass way, reply with something like "I just felt it" that always gets 'em, or "How could you possibly call me with that hand?" If it doesn't tilt them, it'll make them think you're an idiot which usually pays pretty well.
Posted Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:38 pm GMT by cayouche
| Dave B wrote: | | Just reply, "hey, it was a coin flip". That will really turn the knife. |
It's funny, but there's actually a guy at our game that really thinks like that.
A8 vs. A2, he gets a runner-runner straight, then proceed to say: "It was 50/50, and maybe I was a slight favorite, because of my straight draw."
We replied: "Well, you got lucky, but you were behind..."
"No, I took statistical classes, and I actually did pretty well in those: I was favorite on that hand..." - pure classic!! 
That guy is one of the stupidest humans I met in my life. Unfortunately, he was born without that part of the brain that makes someone "not stupid".
Posted Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:06 pm GMT by Kearsed
if someone catches a bad beat and complains about it, I laugh at them lol
Posted Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:02 pm GMT by BMiller1980
I agree that the only time to MAYBE apologize is if you make a stupid play and get payed off. I would almost never fold KK preflop. Plus its funny when other people get mad
Posted Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:03 pm GMT by supafrey
apologizing is silly. I do it if it gets me more money later though.
Posted Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:31 am GMT by MasterMike
No need to apologize, maybe a little something but its not needed.
I would tend to say
"dude its ok that i won"
Posted Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:35 am GMT by raisebot
Just tell them that you typed the hand number into pokertracker and it said a king was coming on the river 
I also really like Dave B's "coin flip" response.
If they berate my bad play, I try to rub it in as much as possible 
Posted Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:10 am GMT by gumbie
I give the victim a few seconds to be rude. If they are rude I will laugh at them.
If they take it like a man I say "unlucky".
Posted Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:33 am GMT by jimmer
your're right, he's wrong
pocket aces does not gaurantee an automatic payday. remind him of that.
also, with his attitude, i'd of kept winding him up for the rest of the session. (i'm not usually like that either), but you've obviously hit a nerve , so make the most of it.
Posted Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:38 am GMT by jimmer
| raisebot wrote: | | Just tell them that you typed the hand number into pokertracker and it said a king was coming on the river |
yeah, or say something like. "I don't know what your complaining about, i put in KK against AA on my poker calculator and KK was favorite"
Posted Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:09 pm GMT by Muck
| Dave B wrote: | | Just reply, "hey, it was a coin flip". That will really turn the knife. |
Why not
"Hey you can't get a race any closer than AA vs KK, it must be 98% vs 97%!"
Posted Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:16 pm GMT by jeffonline
I made the final table at our local Pub Poker tourney 3 left, I was on the button QQ, I call, small calls, BB goes all-in, I quickly call, small folds, BB shows K9, flop is 10Q5 turn 3 river J, BB says sorry. I say Fxxxx, I don’t believe you’re sorry. Did I feel better No, did sorry help No was he really sorry No, should he have said sorry, who cares.
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