Whats your play here? Did i make the right Fold |
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Posted Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:19 pm GMT by golfey
ill post hand history up to the Flop then post the results after
whats your play here?
Seat 3: Golfey A  K ($60.40 in chips)
Seat 7: mike301284 ($56.95 in chips)
Seat 10: pijaweczkaxx ($60.55 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
pijaweczkaxx posts blind ($0.25), Golfey posts blind ($0.50).
PRE-FLOP
mike301284 bets $2.50, pijaweczkaxx calls $2.25, Golfey calls $2.
FLOP board cards 9  A  4
pijaweczkaxx checks, Golfey checks, mike301284 bets $10, pijaweczkaxx calls $10,
i checked with the intention of a re raise but i didnt expect such a big raise....and then a caller!!!
help:)
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Posted Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:26 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
I'm not thinking about folding this hand. All I'm deciding is whether to push now or on the turn. If you're up against a cooler, you're up against a cooler, but it happens... which is one reason I would actually prefer a reraise before the flop. I think you're up against some kind of combination of a weaker Ace for one player and the nut flush draw for the other.
I would either call here and open push the turn if a safe card comes on the turn, or just go all-in right now. Personally, I'm a little more in favor of pushing now, because you may get the flush draw to lay down (possibly incorrectly for him) and play heads up against the weaker Ace.
Posted Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:30 pm GMT by golfey
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | I'm not thinking about folding this hand. All I'm deciding is whether to push now or on the turn. If you're up against a cooler, you're up against a cooler, but it happens... which is one reason I would actually prefer a reraise before the flop. I think you're up against some kind of combination of a weaker Ace for one player and the nut flush draw for the other.
I would either call here and open push the turn if a safe card comes on the turn, or just go all-in right now. Personally, I'm a little more in favor of pushing now, because you may get the flush draw to lay down (possibly incorrectly for him) and play heads up against the weaker Ace. |
will i post hand history now?
might as well let you see it or will i wait?
Posted Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:31 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Wait for a few other replies. I want to hear how wrong I am.
I'd also like to note that I think action is also dependent on the player. How loose are the preflop raiser and caller? Hand ranges?
Posted Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:33 pm GMT by golfey
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | | Wait for a few other replies. I want to hear how wrong I am. |
ok 
its annoying i couldnt have more time to think about it. That timer goes too fast 
the two players have been aggressive and very loose. however there were on a few occasions when they played exactly the same way but had the nuts very confusing!! lol
Posted Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:17 pm GMT by TheSalche
If these guys are as loose as you say they are, I'd recommend calling and pushing a non-threatening turn.
The problem with pushing the flop is that they will probably both call, and the second caller is probably getting the odds to do so. I'd imagine we're somewhere around 40 - 50% to win the hand from here, but calling does a few things:
1) keeps pot smallish for when they do have something like a set or two pair
2) allows us to stay not pot committed, so we can fold to scare cards
scare cards here are (in order)
spades
9
4
QJ10
Posted Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:39 pm GMT by shorn7
I agree with Salche. Call here and open push turn on safe card is best play.
Posted Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:22 am GMT by golfey
its wierd how i look at that hand and didnt at least call.
different frame of thinking.
ill post the result tonight
Posted Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:53 am GMT by Skribbles
I like the fold!
Posted Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:08 am GMT by MrDarling
In a short hand play I think a reraise preflop is in order.
Someone is probably holding a high pair (K's not likely but maybe Q's - T's)
Other guy has probably a weaker A.
Posted Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:25 pm GMT by golfey
OVERALL HAND SUMMARY
Seat 3: Golfey A K ($60.40 in chips)
Seat 7: mike301284 ($56.95 in chips)
Seat 10: pijaweczkaxx ($60.55 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
pijaweczkaxx posts blind ($0.25), Golfey posts blind ($0.50).
PRE-FLOP
mike301284 bets $2.50, pijaweczkaxx calls $2.25, Golfey calls $2.
FLOP board cards 9 A 4
pijaweczkaxx checks, Golfey checks, mike301284 bets $10, pijaweczkaxx calls $10, Golfey folds.
TURN board cards 9 A 4 8
pijaweczkaxx checks, mike301284 bets $44.45 and is all-in, pijaweczkaxx calls $44.45.
RIVER board cards 9 A 4 8 8
SHOWDOWN
mike301284 shows J J 
pijaweczkaxx shows J 9
pijaweczkaxx wins $115.90.
SUMMARY
Dealer: mike301284
Pot: $116.40, (including rake: $0.50)
Golfey, loses $2.50
mike301284, loses $56.95
pijaweczkaxx, bets $56.95, collects $115.90, net $58.95
Posted Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:53 pm GMT by TheSalche
Illustrating my point exactly
First of all theres no way you should be check/folding on such a dry board UNLESS there was a bet and a raise.
The flop bet isn't all that huge, a little bit more than a pot sized bet.
Had you called and THEN check/folded to that turn spade, that would have been an excellent line.
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