Posted Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:10 pm GMT by MrDarling
1st villain Civil is a loose bad player. Raised with crap like Q7o etc. so wasn't too worried about him
2nd villain is a solid player. Didn't play too many pots and usually fold when had nothing.
Full Tilt Poker Game #1374433363: Table Vine (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:41:48 ET - 2006/12/08
Seat 2: stickyicky651 ($3)
Seat 3: CivilEng05 ($5.45)
Seat 4: MrDarling ($8.55)
Seat 5: StevieG013 ($12.55)
Seat 6: PKR_EMPRR ($14.45)
MrDarling posts the small blind of $0.05
StevieG013 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrDarling  
PKR_EMPRR folds
stickyicky651 folds
CivilEng05 raises to $0.20
MrDarling calls $0.15
StevieG013 calls $0.10
*** FLOP ***   
MrDarling checks
StevieG013 checks
CivilEng05 bets $0.60
MrDarling calls $0.60
StevieG013 calls $0.60
*** TURN *** 
MrDarling checks
ladyluck2j sits down
StevieG013 checks
CivilEng05 checks
*** RIVER *** 
MrDarling has 15 seconds left to act
MrDarling bets $1.30
StevieG013 raises to $3.50
CivilEng05 folds
MrDarling: split?
Was I right to draw to this hand?
Can you put villain on a hand?
Is this an easy call, fold or does anyone raise here?
Thanks
danny
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Posted Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:35 pm GMT by raisebot
I'd probably check & call the river within reason. If you check the river and villain grossly overbets the pot, then you should consider laying it down.
Then again, chasing a straight with a pair on board isn't too great of an idea either.
Posted Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:05 pm GMT by Gunslinger
I think there's a good chance villain just has an 8. J8 and Q8 are unlikely. 88 and 86 are both reasonable given villian's play, but his play fits any other 8 in his hand (on the turn he was probably hoping the button would bet again). Raisebot is correct in that calling a pot size bet with an OESD on a paired board, and you didn't know yet that the BB was going to call as well, was probably not a great plan, but as the hand turned out, you're getting over 3-1 on a call. Don't raise, but I would call.
Posted Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:45 am GMT by shorn7
I acually dont mind the call on the flop, even with BB behind. You likely have 6 clean outs and they might get someone's stack if you hit. If the turn was bet, then we should muck.
I also think you have to bet the river here. Why draw if you aren't going to try and get value from the hand? Looks like villain's check on the turn is weakness (like AQ or AK) so I think we have an easy call of the raise on the river. Unless he just hit gin with QQ, I think we are good here.
Posted Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:03 am GMT by MrDarling
so, am I to understand the Jury is not decided on this one yet?
My thoughts were, if I do hit, and I'm against a slow played trips I can really take a lot out of it.
Was hoping Villain 1 will make a move after my river bet, would have probably pushed allin then.
But against villain 2, I wasn't too comfortable pushing. Infact, bigger raise I would have probably fold..
So, what is the RIGHT move in this situation?
Posted Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:07 pm GMT by Jauron
IMO since we drew to it we bet the river, and we call the reraise. I don't reraise here often and I don't lay it down often.
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