Posted Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:21 pm GMT by zinn0
So my main question is what is the best way to play a big pot against semi-short stacks. I had this hand come up earlier and after the flop both villains had ~$20 left. Do I just commit both of them now or should I slow down a bit?
Stacks:
CO ($27.95)
Hero-button ($70.35)
SB ($22.40)
Preflop action:Hero is Button with Qc Qs
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 3 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $5.75, 1 fold, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $4.
I raised for obv. reasons. Value and isolation. SB cold calling oop worries me a bit although he is very loose passive. Something to the tune of 31/3/1. CO is the table maniac. 65/21/3. Just a real LAGgy player.
So we have a big pot already(~$18) and nobody has really defined their hand.
Flop:
7c, 9h, 6c
SB checks, CO bets $2.
Hero...
My gut instinct is to get one or both committed to the pot right here. I guess this is where my problem is. I want a good line when playing a pot this size with one or more semi-short stacks.
Thoughts/ideas/criticisms/good recipes?
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Posted Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:13 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Raise pot.
Posted Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:04 am GMT by shorn7
Definitely raise and make them commit now. No reason to slowplay here since one or both oculd have overs to beat you. You don't mind playing for $20 odd more anyway, so do it now.
Posted Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:56 pm GMT by Skribbles
Bet $13-15.
Commits them to the pot and they may think that pushing will make you fold.
Or just put them all-in...
Posted Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:46 pm GMT by vyni
sb called 6 pre, but checked with that poor flop. We're probably going to lose him unless he chases. Likely on AK, AQ, or such and I wouldnt care if he folds or not here: odds in our favor but...
co threw 2 into 18... oh so weak. thats the one we want to hang onto. i'ld drag him in slowly. round started with him on 22, raise it to 7 and get more of him on the turn. just afraid anything too aggressive will chase him out now.
i don't think that we would be able to get them both, or either, all in here unless they're complete fish.
Posted Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:04 pm GMT by Skribbles
| vyni wrote: |
i don't think that we would be able to get them both, or either, all in here unless they're complete fish. |
zinn0 is up $20 at the table. They MUST be fish.
Posted Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:33 pm GMT by TheSalche
zinn plays worse against fish than against high stakes pros
Posted Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:43 pm GMT by zinn0
Have I ever told you guys how I think 90% of the people here are dicks?
Posted Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:05 am GMT by supafrey
my ears are burning
Posted Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:14 am GMT by Skribbles
| zinn0 wrote: | | Have I ever told you guys how I think 90% of the people here are dicks? |
I wouldn't say dicks... more like bad comedians.
Posted Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:42 am GMT by zinn0
Yea, thats more like it.
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:18 am GMT by exit music
I wouldn't quite bet the pot here probably closer to 2/3rd, if you get called you have to decide if you are either pushing or folding. In a live game it's probably easier to get a read, but this is the most important part of this pot. If a horrible card comes on the turn you are golden, if an ace/flush/straight card rolls off you have to consider getting away from this hand.
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:25 am GMT by zinn0
stack sizes relative to the pot are very important in this hand.
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:33 pm GMT by TheSalche
| Skribbles wrote: | | zinn0 wrote: | | Have I ever told you guys how I think 90% of the people here are dicks? |
I wouldn't say dicks... more like bad comedians. |
note your avatar =)
calling the flop here looks really weak ... the only way you can really fold to a flop raise is if SB pushes and CO calls ... sucks to be up against a bigger pair here but with the loose/passive and loose/aggressive players you'll probably usually be ahead here
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:44 pm GMT by zinn0
| TheSalche wrote: | | note your avatar =) |
said the young man wearing aviators and smoking a pipe.
Anyway, back to the hand, I raised to $20. OOP cold caller calls and Mr. LAG folds.
QQ holds up against TT and zinn0 smiles.
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