Posted Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:39 pm GMT by odlozilik
Some hands simply make me laugh. I don't know, did those players just play very badly, or is there something else, what I still don't understand? Please comment, if you can. I see it quite often to happen.
Stage #517075906: Holdem No Limit $0.25 - 2006-12-14 06:26:36 (ET)
Table: CARDINAL AVE (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 2 - ODLOZILIK ($8.15 in chips)
Seat 3 - GOLDENBOI ($8 in chips)
Seat 4 - MICHAELRR ($10 in chips)
Seat 5 - EMKCUF12 ($9.50 in chips)
Seat 6 - CIXTEAM ($6.10 in chips)
Seat 1 - CTAT ($14.85 in chips)
GOLDENBOI - Posts small blind $0.10
MICHAELRR - Posts big blind $0.25
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to ODLOZILIK  
EMKCUF12 - Folds
CIXTEAM - Calls $0.25
CTAT - Folds
ODLOZILIK - Raises $0.50 to $0.50
GOLDENBOI - Calls $0.40
MICHAELRR - Folds
CIXTEAM - Calls $0.25
*** FLOP ***   
GOLDENBOI - Bets $0.75
CIXTEAM - Folds
ODLOZILIK - Raises $1.50 to $1.50
GOLDENBOI - Calls $0.75
*** TURN *** 
GOLDENBOI - Checks
ODLOZILIK - Bets $2
GOLDENBOI - All-In(Raise) $6 to $6
ODLOZILIK - Calls $4
*** RIVER *** 
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ODLOZILIK - Shows (Two Pair, aces and kings)
GOLDENBOI - Shows   (One pair, nines)
ODLOZILIK Collects $15.95 from main pot
Another example:
Stage #517063363: Holdem No Limit $0.25 - 2006-12-14 05:42:19 (ET)
Table: SAPPHIRE DR. (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - MSGT_USAF ($19.40 in chips)
Seat 6 - JUJUYOUNG ($9.91 in chips)
Seat 1 - ODLOZILIK ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 2 - BIGPIMPA ($11.60 in chips)
Seat 3 - H_E_R_O ($52.65 in chips)
Seat 4 - MAX93035 ($17.16 in chips)
JUJUYOUNG - Posts small blind $0.10
ODLOZILIK - Posts big blind $0.25
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to ODLOZILIK  
BIGPIMPA - Calls $0.25
H_E_R_O - Folds
MAX93035 - Calls $0.25
MSGT_USAF - Folds
JUJUYOUNG - Calls $0.15
ODLOZILIK - Checks
*** FLOP ***   
JUJUYOUNG - Bets $2
ODLOZILIK - Calls $2
BIGPIMPA - Folds
MAX93035 - Folds
*** TURN ***
JUJUYOUNG - Checks
ODLOZILIK - Bets $2
JUJUYOUNG - Calls $2
*** RIVER *** 
JUJUYOUNG - All-In $5.66
ODLOZILIK - All-In $5.40
JUJUYOUNG - returned ($0.26) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JUJUYOUNG - Shows   (One pair, fives)
ODLOZILIK - Shows (Three of a kind, fives)
ODLOZILIK Collects $18.85 from main pot
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Posted Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:30 pm GMT by BeerWench13
I have no explanation for the first hand. I would search for that guy every time I logged in, if I were you.
On the second hand, the guy semi-bluffed the flop, check/called with his flush draw on the turn and missed on the river. The only way for him to win that pot was to bet it big and hope that you would fold. I can't say I'd play the hand the same as he, but I can understand his play completely and don't really think it's that awful. You would have to have a 5 or a boat to call him here more than likely. It just so happened that you had the 5 and he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
By the way, you've posted quite a few hands and I notice that you use the minimum raise quite frequently both preflop and postflop. If you're tyring to thin the field, a bigger bet is usually required (3-4xBB preflop or at least 1/2-2/3 the pot postflop) unless you're playing in a rock garden. The minimum bet just builds the pot but doesn't harm the odds for your opponents to call. I find it a great bet when I'm holding the stone cold nuts and my hand had no vulnerability because it encourages callers and even reraises. However, that is the only time I find a minimum raise to be the best bet. Just trying to be helpful.
*disclaimer: There are no set rules in poker and one should not ALWAYS or NEVER do anything.
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:19 pm GMT by odlozilik
Thanks for your comment, Beerwench. I know I play the poker somehow in special way (I still didn't read the poker literature, lol). I seldom bet hard, unless I have "my reasons" to do so. As for now, I don't have real reasons to change my style much, because I am profitable with that (well, do I maybe get most of the money from players, who play like those from my post? lol).
For example, last time I use mostly only min. raise with AK; if I miss the flop (what happens mostly), it's easier (and cheaper) to keep betting continuation, or simply lay it down. In the same time, my opponents can hardly guess, what I am holding, if I min.raise (pre-flop) with many various hands. I only raise harder with pocket pairs (from 9 up), because only then I need, in my oppinion, to "thin the field", as you wrote. If I have AK, I don't mind to have more callers, because if I hit, I am seldom beaten. By the way, I mostly play shorthanded tables (with 6 players), so it happens that even with min.raise I get only 1 or 2 callers.
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