Posted Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:44 pm GMT by aaronw
First off, slowrolling is one of the worst things you can do at the table. I get very frustrated everytime someone slowrolls me.
Now to the question, how do you explain to someone, who is unfamiliar with all the subtelties and nuances of the game, how and why slowrolling is unethical/annoying?
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Posted Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:48 pm GMT by supafrey
it's not unethical. just explain that being slow is annoying when there's no point to it - that some people don't care about how hot ppl think they are.
Posted Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:35 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
How do you explain why it's rude to urinate on someone's house plant in the middle of a dinner party? It just is, because it's sooooo unnecessary and only highlights what an idiot you really are.
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:19 am GMT by Buffarino
I don't understandy why people slow roll and don't do it myself, but I also don't get why it pisses people off. What's the big deal?
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:38 am GMT by supafrey
it pisses me off because i don't like people pointlessly wasting my time?
Why would i want to watch someone make faces for 30-60 seconds before flipping the nuts?
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:33 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
| Buffarino wrote: | | I don't understandy why people slow roll and don't do it myself, but I also don't get why it pisses people off. What's the big deal? |
It pisses me off because there is NO reason not to just call and show the winning hand (if it's a no brainer decision, anyway), except just to show off, waste everyone's time, and get my hopes up about winning the hand.
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:46 pm GMT by hookedupmonte
the reason most people slowroll, is to see what the other person has, now if you made the bet you should show first, if your calling why show your hand just to have the other guy muck, and not know what cards he had, its lost info that can be useful
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:52 pm GMT by Jauron
| hookedupmonte wrote: | | the reason most people slowroll, is to see what the other person has, now if you made the bet you should show first, if your calling why show your hand just to have the other guy muck, and not know what cards he had, its lost info that can be useful |
MOST? I doubt that.
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:17 pm GMT by supafrey
the reason most people slowroll is because they are jerks
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:14 pm GMT by Jefecaminador
wow i can read... I thought you were talking about slowPLAYING.... the world makes much more sense now
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:39 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| hookedupmonte wrote: | | the reason most people slowroll, is to see what the other person has, now if you made the bet you should show first, if your calling why show your hand just to have the other guy muck, and not know what cards he had, its lost info that can be useful |
Waiting to show is one thing. Waiting interminably to call with the stone cold nuts is another.
If I get to showdown where I called with the winner, I have no problem showing mine first, but I'll ask when necessary to see the other cards since I'm entitled. Normally that's not a problem since the bettor is usually pretty quick to show his hand anyway.
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:23 pm GMT by mindgame
Slowrolling is more than annoying. I see players do it with insidious motives: they want the opponent to feel that it's his pot...they want that to sink in and let his hopes begin to soar, then yank the rug our from under him. It's a form of emotional manipulation, pure and simple. But it has nothing to do with the game except to piss an opponent off and there a more than a few players who enjoy doing that. I think calling them jerks is being too nice about it.
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:13 pm GMT by supafrey
Hrms.... Since Mindgame now agrees with my position, I'm assuming that there's something wrong with it.
AS such, from now on, I'm going to haveta agree that slowrolling is necessary sometimes. In fact, it's a vital part of the game and needs to be encouraged, if solely because of how cool it is.
I will slowroll every hand from now on.
Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:58 pm GMT by mindgame
Posted Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:50 am GMT by MrDarling
Well, since getting other players to tilt is in one of our tools to gain more $ why nit use slowrolling . It seems to piss most of you, so I guess it is a working tool!
Posted Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:25 am GMT by supafrey
| MrDarling wrote: | | Well, since getting other players to tilt is in one of our tools to gain more $ why nit use slowrolling . It seems to piss most of you, so I guess it is a working tool! |
ding ding ding.
But there's also a word called "angle shooting"... Pressing the "technically-not-quite-illegal" buttons too many times gets you never invited back, harassed in the casino, beat up by your car, etc..
Posted Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:26 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
Plus, I've found it to be generally more profitable to make friends at the table rather than enemies. The bulk of the money any of us will make will be provided by recreational players, so make sure they're enjoying their recreation.
Posted Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:05 pm GMT by TheSalche
| supafrey wrote: | | MrDarling wrote: | | Well, since getting other players to tilt is in one of our tools to gain more $ why nit use slowrolling . It seems to piss most of you, so I guess it is a working tool! |
ding ding ding.
But there's also a word called "angle shooting"... Pressing the "technically-not-quite-illegal" buttons too many times gets you never invited back, harassed in the casino, beat up by your car, etc.. |
hence why sean's idea is better
id rather get beat up at the table, then at my car
Posted Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:47 pm GMT by Buffarino
| supafrey wrote: | it pisses me off because i don't like people pointlessly wasting my time?
Why would i want to watch someone make faces for 30-60 seconds before flipping the nuts? |
Ever think people might be trying to piss you off?
Posted Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:49 pm GMT by Buffarino
| mindgame wrote: | | Slowrolling is more than annoying. I see players do it with insidious motives: they want the opponent to feel that it's his pot...they want that to sink in and let his hopes begin to soar, then yank the rug our from under him. It's a form of emotional manipulation, pure and simple. But it has nothing to do with the game except to piss an opponent off and there a more than a few players who enjoy doing that. I think calling them jerks is being too nice about it. |
Isn't pissing people off a big part of poker?
I might have to start slowrolling if it really cheeses people off in a big way.
Posted Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:55 pm GMT by zinn0
You'll get beat up in the parking lot.
Posted Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:29 am GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| zinn0 wrote: | | You'll get beat up in the parking lot. |
I probably wouldn't wait that long.
Posted Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:25 am GMT by MrDarling
| Sean_in_NJ wrote: | | zinn0 wrote: | | You'll get beat up in the parking lot. |
I probably wouldn't wait that long. |
lmao
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