Posted Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:11 am GMT by J279
Hi,
Did I play this O.K and was just unlucky or should I have folded earlier (no reads on any1 at this point).
POKERSTARS GAME #7513946181: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) –
2006/12/19 - 16:06:24 (ET)
Table 'Verbiest' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: sharkyy5555 ($26.75 in chips)
Seat 2: JASER279 ($12 in chips)
Seat 3: WisconFrank ($17.80 in chips)
Seat 4: BostonEagle5 ($6.30 in chips)
Seat 5: chuckoy ($26.40 in chips)
Seat 6: nastynate42 ($25.35 in chips)
BostonEagle5: posts small blind $0.10
chuckoy: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JASER279  
nastynate42: folds
nastynate42 leaves the table
sharkyy5555: raises $0.75 to $1
JASER279: raises $1 to $2
WisconFrank: folds
BostonEagle5: folds
crazbluf joins the table at seat #6
chuckoy: folds
sharkyy5555: calls $1
*** FLOP ***   
sharkyy5555: checks
JASER279: bets $2.50
sharkyy5555: calls $2.50
*** TURN *** 
sharkyy5555: checks
JASER279: bets $2.50
sharkyy5555: calls $2.50
*** RIVER *** 
sharkyy5555: bets $19.75 and is all-in
JASER279: calls $5 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sharkyy5555: shows   (a flush, Ace high)
JASER279: mucks hand
sharkyy5555 collected $23.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $24.35 | Rake $1.15
Board
Seat 1: sharkyy5555 showed and won ($23.20) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: JASER279 mucked
Seat 3: WisconFrank (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: BostonEagle5 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: chuckoy (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: nastynate42 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
I've lost over $120 at these levels since Saturday with similar hands so any insight or criticism well appreciated.
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Posted Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:26 am GMT by Sean_in_NJ
1) I would reraise more preflop, or just call the initial raise and then raise on a good flop. The "almost minraise" (forever known now as the "comatose kitten") doesn't do much for you.
2) Flop bet is fine, given the pot size at that point.
3) Bet more on the turn. A push wouldn't be out of the question.
4) I wouldn't have called the river, but I probably would've had my money in before then anyway.
5) Don't post the results of the hand when you're asking for advice. You'll get biased answers when everyone knows how it turns out. Hopefully, I avoided that somewhat.
Posted Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:11 am GMT by Poto
Never re-raise min. preflop, it's very bad, period.
Flop is good.
Push Turn.
Posted Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:44 am GMT by MrDarling
Don't reraise preflop unless you know him to be reck less and raise with crap. If you do reraise, raise more.
Flop - not that bad. pot was 4.35 you bet a little more then half the pot. With a strong hand and a flop like that I like to bet closer to pot size. Especially not knowing villain hand.
Turn - with previous flop bet, its time to bet more again close to pot size or even a push.
River - I would normally say don't call. but with your stack size in relation to the pot - you almost have the odds to call. Though you probably can't win any hand, it might serve by not allowing people to push you out of pots later.
Posted Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:30 am GMT by Jauron
Don't mind the preflop play as a change of pace play, JJ heads up is fine.
Flop bet I probably would have gotten a little more in and had my money in by the turn with him calling the flop.
Not sure why you were value betting the flop and turn with a hand like JJ on such a draw heavy board.
Posted Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:51 am GMT by exit music
This is where the hand went wrong:
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POKERSTARS GAME #7513946181: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) –
Seat 1: sharkyy5555 ($26.75 in chips)
Seat 2: JASER279 ($12 in chips)
sharkyy5555: raises $0.75 to $1
JASER279: raises $1 to $2
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You are short stacked, your plan on this hand should be able to get all-in on the flop, in 2 swift moves. You should have re-raised to about $4 preflop leaving youself about 8$ behind, playing in a $8.35 pot . If the flop is horrible like AKQ you can just fold and reload so you have chips to work with. If the flop comes rags, push and hope he hit something worse than an overpair but worth calling with. If he folds on the flop, you are still winning a nice pot. Incidentally, unless your opponent folds preflop or on the flop, you are losing your stack on this hand.
Posted Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:15 am GMT by Jauron
*EDIT*
I had a point when I posted this last night, but as I sobered up I can't remember it...
Posted Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:01 am GMT by shorn7
Your re-raise preflop needs to be hand defining or you should just call. As others have pointed out, the min re-raise is not a good play since you will be giving very high implied odds for someone with a weaker hand to call you. Exactly what you don't want to do in NL.
I agree with the other too...since he didn't come over the top of you preflop, he likely doesn't have a bigger pair, so your goal should be to get it all-in on the flop/turn.
Posted Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:19 pm GMT by groton
im ether all in by the Turn or folding the river
basicly with Jacks with that board till the river u want all your money in to cost the person drawing for the flush
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