Posted Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:45 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
PokerStars Game #7522673837: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/12/20 - 02:42:28 (ET)
Table 'Ijiraq' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: DavePham ($185 in chips)
Seat 3: WhoWants2Mes ($167.40 in chips)
Seat 4: GreeseBack ($164.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Turn_Prophet ($198 in chips)
Seat 6: AceQuad ($117 in chips)
Seat 7: nuts_shipit ($91 in chips)
Seat 8: JanVanOranje ($116.70 in chips)
Seat 9: Ice_Cold66 ($127 in chips)
JanVanOranje: posts small blind $1
Ice_Cold66: posts big blind $2
gvar27kj9lo: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Turn_Prophet  
DavePham: folds
WhoWants2Mes: folds
GreeseBack: folds
Turn_Prophet: raises $5 to $7
AceQuad: folds
nuts_shipit: calls $7
JanVanOranje: calls $6
Ice_Cold66: folds
*** FLOP ***   
JanVanOranje: checks
Turn_Prophet: bets $10
nuts_shipit: folds
JanVanOranje: calls $10
*** TURN *** 
JanVanOranje: checks
Turn_Prophet: bets $20
JanVanOranje: calls $20
*** RIVER *** 
JanVanOranje: checks
Turn_Prophet: ????
Villain has $80 left with $80 in the pot. Should I push him in or make a smaller bet?
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Posted Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:23 am GMT by TheSalche
Gotta wonder what he's calling with ... push is probably good, but the bigger problem with this hand is that you werent betting big enough on previous streets to set up a nice river push payout.
If you bet 15 and then 30, the pot size is $110 and villain has $50 left, so they almost have to call the river push.
Posted Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:00 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
| TheSalche wrote: |
If you bet 15 and then 30, the pot size is $110 and villain has $50 left, so they almost have to call the river push. |
That is a very good point. In retrospect, my bets were not well-planned. I think the reason I bet so little is that my hand was so strong that I wanted to try and get a multi-way pot by offering attractive odds.
Posted Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:08 am GMT by supafrey
small is fine. half pot.
Posted Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:19 am GMT by shorn7
I think it depends on what you put him on (looks like a weaker Ace that just made good two pair with Q kicker to me) and whether or not you have seen him call large river bets or not.
Slache does make a good point that you could have sized the bets better so that the river bet was bigger and easier for him to call no matter what he had.
I think I would bet aroung 50 here and hope to get paid unless you have seen him call off his stack with weak hands. Then push.
Posted Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:11 am GMT by exit music
I want my opponent to call me with a lot of hands that he's probably losing with right here. He's got 80 left, I'd probably bet a little less than half his stack so it seems like an easy call for him. Not sure he'll invest more than half his stack with mid pairs/mid-pockets, but for only 35 he has great odds and can't really fold here, and could even induce a bluff for his whole stack.
I someone should do the EV equations for pushing vs. suckbet here
Posted Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:14 pm GMT by supafrey
there are no EV equations for that.
Posted Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:23 pm GMT by zinn0
| supafrey wrote: | | there are no EV equations for that. |
I thought it was right around 1.
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