2 pairs - str8 draw board. Call river? |
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Posted Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:28 pm GMT by MrDarling
Full Tilt Poker Game #1514266204: Table Boulder - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:12:19 ET - 2007/01/01
Seat 1: luckyjimdixon ($6.75)
Seat 2: TheChickenMan ($10.35)
Seat 3: Pocket Aces 37 ($19.50)
Seat 4: Rikardur ($9.35)
Seat 5: DOTapproved ($9.50)
Seat 6: ThrowTANKup ($5.15)
Seat 7: Tok 151 ($8.30)
Seat 8: hero ($8.95)
Seat 9: tss22 ($3.80)
Tok 151 posts the small blind of $0.05
hero posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero 
tss22 folds
luckyjimdixon folds
TheChickenMan calls $0.10
Pocket Aces 37 folds
Rikardur folds
DOTapproved calls $0.10
ThrowTANKup calls $0.10
Tok 151 calls $0.05
Hero checks
*** FLOP ***   
Tok 151 checks
Hero bets $0.40
TheChickenMan folds
DOTapproved calls $0.40
ThrowTANKup folds
Tok 151 is sitting out
Tok 151 folds
*** TURN *** 
Tok 151 stands up
ThrowTANKup stands up
Hero bets $2
ShortSharpShock adds $6
DOTapproved has 15 seconds left to act
TrkyTree adds $3
DOTapproved calls $2
*** RIVER *** 
Hero checks
DOTapproved bets $7, and is all in
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
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I led the flop for about 3/4 hoping for a call and ready to fold to any real attack (someone could easily have a better 2 pair or a hugh draw)
Slightly overbet the turn. Dude took a long time then called.
Either strength or drawing - my gut said a draw.
River is pretty ugly. Any 9 got me beat. So I checked. Hoping that if he hit his card or has me beat he wont push but value bet, allowing a cheap SD (I want SD with 2 pairs)
What are your thoughts about my check?
Now, he did push - which is a big over bet.
So, do I call?
Smells like a busted draw to me, but I lost a lot of my BRcalling hugh over bets...
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Posted Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:20 pm GMT by Jauron
Against an unkown player I think I call here more often than not. His river bet is a little bigger than the pot but I think our hand has enough value to allow us to call here considering how hard he pushed. Your check IMO complicated the hell out of this.
Flop- I like the bet and you leading out, not a hand to slow play here in a multi limped pot, charge them something to draw, thin the field and consider the hands that would call or raise you.
River- I do not like the check unless we are trapping. I think I lead out for around $2 again, and consider folding if villian pushes on me. It's a defensive value bet, if he still moves in on me I'm much more comfortable with folding now.
Interested in hearing others thoughts on the river check.
Posted Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:03 pm GMT by MasterMike
I would think I am beat here. Probably was playing some sort of rag and got lucky.
Posted Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:59 am GMT by MrDarling
The reasoning behind my check is so :
The pot was at that time around $5.30
If dude hit his miracle card and I bet into him I would probably have to call, since if I bet too small he could sense weakness and push. and if I bet big I'd be pot committed and getting the right odds to call.
If I check and dude hits, he will opt for a value bet. Which I can then decide wether to call or not.
I find it hard to believe someone hitting their card and then over betting at the first sign of weakness - especially on low levels
Posted Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:26 am GMT by Sean_in_NJ
Make a blocking bet on the river so that you set the price. If he calls, there's your cheap showdown. If he raises, you can fold.
If this were limit, check/call is fine.
Posted Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:43 am GMT by Jauron
| MrDarling wrote: | The reasoning behind my check is so :
The pot was at that time around $5.30
If dude hit his miracle card and I bet into him I would probably have to call, since if I bet too small he could sense weakness and push. and if I bet big I'd be pot committed and getting the right odds to call.
If I check and dude hits, he will opt for a value bet. Which I can then decide wether to call or not.
I find it hard to believe someone hitting their card and then over betting at the first sign of weakness - especially on low levels |
Which shows more weakness a value bet on the end or a check? This isn't the type of board many hands reraise the river to any reasonable bet from you as a bluff most of the time IMO.
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