Posted Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:10 pm GMT by Ensano
Recent post just brought up something I never could understand. I've noticed that whenever I play in a home game people always want huge starting stacks (ie 400 000 chips) but then set the blinds at huge amounts (ie 1000/2000). And if anyone suggest starting with something like 400 chips with blinds starting at 1/2 there's an uproar. Is there reasoning for this or is it just from watching too much TV poker?
NB.. I don't mean any disrespect by refering to your post just needed numbers....
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Posted Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:36 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
It's just more fun to be betting/raising millions of chips instead of 10-100 or whatever.
PS: What's NB?
Posted Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:04 am GMT by suitedaces84
I was going to ask the same thing myself. In the home games I play I'm in charge of the format so the blinds always start at 1/2.
| LeafsFan1122 wrote: | | What's NB? |
I was going to ask this too.
Posted Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:51 am GMT by Ensano
| LeafsFan1122 wrote: | | PS: What's NB? |
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/nota%20bene
Posted Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:56 am GMT by LeafsFan1122
So it's sort of like a "by the way.."?
Posted Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:16 am GMT by Ensano
| LeafsFan1122 wrote: | | So it's sort of like a "by the way.."? |
I guess. 8th grade english teacher showed us it back in the day. Just rather used it then PS.. (wanted to be different)
Posted Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:56 am GMT by Geno
| Ensano wrote: | | LeafsFan1122 wrote: | | So it's sort of like a "by the way.."? |
I guess. 8th grade english teacher showed us it back in the day. Just rather used it then PS.. (wanted to be different) |
NB means 'note well' not by the way! I guess it is a little like PS but not really.
Posted Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:38 pm GMT by Ensano
no·ta be·ne (nt bn, bn)
Abbr. NB
Used to direct attention to something particularly important.
Posted Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:27 pm GMT by groton
i dont know i would realy wish my homegame started with More chips
but tahts becuse we play a funky Format of 40chips of blinds of 1/2 that go up after everytwo people are knocked out.
so it can get freaky at times
Posted Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:28 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
Sounds pretty freaky.
Posted Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:31 pm GMT by groton
| LeafsFan1122 wrote: | | Sounds pretty freaky. |
it is expecaly being the game dont start till Midnight on a weeknight
so Dronkeness Donkeness is the Style Most people play even then there better then the Majorty of Low Limit Foxwoods players 
Posted Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:14 pm GMT by BeerWench13
| groton wrote: | | blinds of 1/2 that go up after everytwo people are knocked out. |
 This is the Mr. Hyde of tournament formats.
I play in a monthly tournament that has the same high blind structure. It's fine after you get used to it, but at the beginning I'm always having to mentally remove zeros to wrap my brain around it. They also have a weird blind structure the hubby and I call the "WPT" structure. It starts at 1000/2000 (10/20) and then goes to 15/30 and so forth. Then, suddenly they jump from 150/300 to 500/1000. WTF?? I had no idea this was the case and got blindsided. I went from having a very large M to push or fold status. It sucked. Anyone else ever seen this in a homegame? Had I known in advance, I would've played that 150/300 level completely differently.
Posted Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:19 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
Play cash games at home. It's soooooooooooooo much easier to manage, and every one of our current home game regulars likes it better than the tournament structure, regardless of how well run the tournaments were.
And our tournaments were run as well as any, because I was in charge and I despise inefficiency.
Posted Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:25 pm GMT by BeerWench13
I agree, Sean. I'd rather play cash games all the time, but I am a minority it seems. The tournaments are easy money, but since they're only run efficiently at my house and one other, they can be rather taxing on my patience. I played in one tourney that was so badly managed that I just started going all-in every hand hoping to get called and knocked out because the prize pool was not worth the dentist bill I'd have gotten from grinding my teeth for that long a period of time. Of course, when I did get called I kept winning and ended up taking 2nd. It went a lot faster though since I kept knocking out player after player with any 2 cards. I was HATED by the end of that tourney and, for some odd reason, haven't been invited to another there.
Posted Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:34 pm GMT by Kalbelgarion
In the games I run, the chips correspond to the buy-in. We buy in for $5 each? Then you get $5 in chips and we play $.05/$.10 blinds to start, and then go up every 20 minutes or so. I never understand the $15,000/$30,000 crap when you paid only a few bucks to get in. You're not on TV, you're in my kitchen. While you're up grab me another Coke.
Posted Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:50 pm GMT by supafrey
| Kalbelgarion wrote: | | You're not on TV, you're in my kitchen. While you're up grab me another 8-ball of Coke. |
FYP. Live a little.
Posted Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:33 am GMT by dstlvb
I give 1000 or 1500 chips and start out at 5/10 doubling every 25-30 mins.
After the 10-20 i go to 25-50 to get rid of the 5 chips. little of a jump but its early and everybody is used to it now.
Posted Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:02 am GMT by Ensano
| Kalbelgarion wrote: | | In the games I run, the chips correspond to the buy-in. We buy in for $5 each? Then you get $5 in chips and we play $.05/$.10 blinds to start, and then go up every 20 minutes or so. I never understand the $15,000/$30,000 crap when you paid only a few bucks to get in. You're not on TV, you're in my kitchen. While you're up grab me another Coke. |
this is exactly how I ran our weekly tourney before, which I think is the easiest way to run a small home tourney. blinds .05/.10, and increasing by half the small blind every 15 min (ie .05/.10, .10/.20, .15/.30, .20/.40, .30/60, .50/1). Athough in the end I found that those who didn't complain about the stack found anything else imaginable to complain about.
"Why do we only have 3 chip denominations, there should be at least five."
which brings me to another point. When you play in the tourneys they always want to have like 8 different colour chips. 400 000 starting chips you have 5 1000s, 5 2000s, 4 5000s, 4 10 000s... etc but then they have like 90% of the chips still left in the case.
trying to convince everyone that there are smoother ways to run the tourneys just brought out endless arguments. Once my patience broke I just stoped playing and my roomate took over.... Shortly after the game breaks up.
How do you keep everyone happy?
oh and for some reason NO ONE I meet ever seems to want to play a cash game. Only tourneys where winner takes all.
Posted Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:28 am GMT by Jauron
I'd keep it to whole numbers, people really want to feel like they are playing for real bets and that their buy in is huge. Especially if it is really small.
There are sites that show you what stacks and blinds should be based on how many players and how long you want it to run. Other than that, decide and stick to your guns. If it's your game make a choice and then tell people you'll listen to ideas after the game, chances are by that point they won't even remember to tell you. Once you establish the amounts people will adjust.
Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:17 pm GMT by Ra$inReese
We've been having home game tourny for the last two years every Fri and Sat and are fixin to open a poker room as well. We start with 10,500 in chips 10w(25) 10b(50) 8g(500) 5black(1000) blinds start out at 25/50 and go up every 20 minutes. Buy in is 20$ with unlimited re-buys for the first hour and a chance to add on at the end of the hour as well. at the end of the hour we color out the white chips and take a small 10min break as well. for the rebuys we give 2red red=5,000 and one green. So that the bigger red chips can get mixed in the process. Just make the new stack gets change from whoever is big stack at the table. We usually have about 16-20 and play with two tables. Pay out is Always. 1st=60% of pot. 2nd=35% , and 3rd=15%. We also play with a bounty. everyone puts in an extra 3$ with there original buy in and we put everyones name in the hat. If your name is drawin then u have the bounty on you. Who ever takes you out starting after the first hour our up until u dont want to buy in ne more gets the bounty pot. if you have the bounty on u , and u win then u get 1st+the bounty pot.
Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:06 pm GMT by TheSalche
So much easier just to drop all the zeroes out of that crap. The only real reason to have starting chip values that high are
a. high buy-ins, it corresponds to the money you bought in with
b. antes are not fractions
most home games don't have a 10K buyin unless you're at larry flynts house, and many home games don't use antes ... it really isn't more balla to play at 10,000/20,000 blind levels when you're wearing sweatpants, drinkin a bud light and scratching your gut
Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:48 am GMT by BeerWench13
| TheSalche wrote: | | it really isn't more balla to play at 10,000/20,000 blind levels when you're wearing sweatpants, drinkin a bud light and scratching your gut |
Ewwww. That's not a pretty visual. And Bud Light? Kill me if you ever catch me drinking headache-in-a-can because that will mean that aliens have taken over my body and it's not really me anyway.
| TheSalche wrote: | | So much easier just to drop all the zeroes out of that crap |
I agree. I end up doing that in my head anyway. Can't we just stick with the KISS method?
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