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EYE captain (Video game clan) commits suicide over poker?



Posted Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:02 pm GMT by supafrey
Kind of sad. Obvious mental problems that must have reached MUCH farther than his poker playing. For a summary, it turns out that this dude has been in debt for just under 20k US because of poker. He's a very well known CS gamer and it's a pretty big deal.

For full story:

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1299780


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Posted Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:16 pm GMT by tame_deuces
Sad stuff. Sometimes gambling goes to far for people. Some of us like to chalk it up to weak personalities but the truth is rarely that easy.

I guess poker's redeeming quality is that you can be an addict and beat the game if you have it in you, but for those who haven't that little 'holy grail of winning' probably only makes possible problems worse.



Posted Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:20 pm GMT by supafrey
I dunno. 18kish of debt isn't life-ending. He clearly had other probs.


Posted Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:34 am GMT by Moon_Child
i agree, 20k isn't much of a debt because you can work it off, but 20k is still a lot of money...


Posted Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:00 pm GMT by jimmer
supafrey wrote:
18kish of debt isn't life-ending. He clearly had other probs.

Not nessasarily.. He's already had a taste of the high life. (Limos and tour of the US etc). Therefore I can totally understand if he continued to want to live that lifestyle when he went back home. Then before he knew it, "he's the man". Everyone knows he got money and he becomes a figure that people look upto, or so he thinks.

One day he realises he's going nowhere fast. He thinks he'll lose the repect from his friends and family and he starts to deny the truth. Before he knows it, he's getting into more and more trouble. He loses his job and his appartment and can't even admit the truth to himself, alone his parents. One day he thought he could make a living out of poker, now........, now he can't even afford a pack of cards. All of a sudden, 18k looks alot of money and instead of asking for help he took (what he thought was) the easy option.

I'm not saying this happened, I'm just saying it could of.

God bless mate.



Posted Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:51 pm GMT by exit music
Poker was obviously this kid's life. Unfortunately for him, his life revolved around money, and money = status in this world. No, 18K of debt isn't life-ending at all, he could have cleared that up in 2-3 years working for minimal pay assuming his parents didn't help him out. However, for a kid who obsessed over this game, people knew him as a successful and smart player. He projected the image of high status. However, every time someone typed the word Donkey or fish or bad player into a poker-forum, he read it and thought of himself. Add this to the fact that your debt keeps growing and your problems keep getting worse, he decided to save face and quit.


Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:00 am GMT by Poto
There were a lot of articles about this in Swedish newspapers a couple of days ago. The headline was something like "Internet poker killed Christian Sellergren".


Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:56 am GMT by shorn7
It is a shame and let it be a lesson to us all. Find something else in this life, hopefully spiritual, that you can cling to when times are bad. This seems to be the issue for this guy. He didn't have anything else except for the game and the $$. We all know that those go sour from time to time, so a foundation has to be there to fall back on. For me, it is being a Christian. But everyone has to find what it is for them.


Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:41 pm GMT by gumbie
There are plenty more fish in the sea. Twisted Evil


Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:02 pm GMT by BeerWench13
What a loser. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.


Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:25 pm GMT by supafrey
you really do have a cliche for everything beerwench.


Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:42 pm GMT by zeroswarm
People kill themselves for all sorts of reasons.
The real reason this kid...(21, yes?) killed himself may have been only half related to losing money. Perhaps there were other reasons besides a losing gambling addiction.



Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:01 am GMT by BeerWench13
supafrey wrote:
you really do have a cliche for everything beerwench.

Nope, not everything. I actually cannot claim the one I used. I was taught that in Sunday School. It was the "Sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll will send you straight to Hell" lecture. The suicide quote stuck with me, I guess.



Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:43 pm GMT by jimmer
BeerWench13 wrote:
I was taught that in Sunday School. It was the "Sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll will send you straight to Hell"

Presumably, you weren't called "beerwench" at Sunday school?



Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:47 pm GMT by BeerWench13
Nope. The BW nic didn't come until ~6 years ago. It started as a joke, then someone got me the t-shirt and it stuck. My other nickname is Satan (long story) by my closest friends. I didn't have that nickname in Sunday School either, at least as far as I know. Some of my teachers might disagree with that statement.


Posted Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:46 am GMT by groton
okay so Glasses is BW and just Logo is Jimmer


Posted Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:48 am GMT by tame_deuces
BeerWench13 wrote:
Nope. The BW nic didn't come until ~6 years ago. It started as a joke, then someone got me the t-shirt and it stuck. My other nickname is Satan (long story) by my closest friends. I didn't have that nickname in Sunday School either, at least as far as I know. Some of my teachers might disagree with that statement.


Your best friends called you Satan?



Posted Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:33 am GMT by BeerWench13
Still do. Like I said, long story. Had to do with a pool match and a "hex".


Posted Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:12 pm GMT by jackdog1963
I cant think of any amount of debt worth killing yourself for.


Posted Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:57 pm GMT by General Sal
When that pressure builds up, it just eats at you til you explode. I know what it's like to be 15k in debt. It's not the end of the world. Hiding something like that from your parents... well, it can make you make rash decisions. It wasn't worth dying for.





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