Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:55 am GMT by Ciso_B
Ok, happened few mins ago these hands, thoughts on both......I ll post results later.
PokerStars Game #7894179288: Tournament #39824868, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/01/12 - 06:49:15 (ET)
Table '39824868 17' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: loxo (18090 in chips)
Seat 2: BUCSFANCOLIN (51321 in chips)
Seat 3: Neab (47351 in chips)
Seat 4: da_champp (38593 in chips)
Seat 5: SirChimp (43069 in chips)
Seat 6: Muck.Taguy (49730 in chips)
Seat 7: ollypoker (35163 in chips)
Seat 8: lilluckplz? (25892 in chips)
loxo: posts the ante 50
BUCSFANCOLIN: posts the ante 50
Neab: posts the ante 50
da_champp: posts the ante 50
SirChimp: posts the ante 50
Muck.Taguy: posts the ante 50
ollypoker: posts the ante 50
lilluckplz?: posts the ante 50
Neab: posts small blind 300
da_champp: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Neab  
SirChimp: folds
Muck.Taguy: folds
ollypoker: raises 1200 to 1800
lilluckplz?: folds
loxo: folds
BUCSFANCOLIN: calls 1800
Neab: calls 1500
da_champp: folds
*** FLOP ***   
Neab: checks
ollypoker: bets 2400
BUCSFANCOLIN: folds
Neab: calls 2400
*** TURN *** 
Neab: checks
ollypoker: bets 1200
Neab: raises 5000 to 6200
ollypoker: calls 5000
*** RIVER *** 
Neab: bets 6200
ollypoker: raises 6200 to 12400
Neab:..............
PokerStars Game #7894185801: Tournament #39824868, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/01/12 - 06:50:36 (ET)
Table '39824868 17' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: loxo (18040 in chips)
Seat 2: BUCSFANCOLIN (49471 in chips)
Seat 3: Neab (24501 in chips)
Seat 4: da_champp (37943 in chips)
Seat 5: SirChimp (43019 in chips)
Seat 6: Muck.Taguy (49680 in chips)
Seat 7: ollypoker (60713 in chips)
Seat 8: lilluckplz? (25842 in chips)
loxo: posts the ante 50
BUCSFANCOLIN: posts the ante 50
Neab: posts the ante 50
da_champp: posts the ante 50
SirChimp: posts the ante 50
Muck.Taguy: posts the ante 50
ollypoker: posts the ante 50
lilluckplz?: posts the ante 50
da_champp: posts small blind 300
SirChimp: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Neab  
Muck.Taguy: folds
ollypoker: folds
lilluckplz?: folds
loxo: folds
BUCSFANCOLIN: folds
Neab: raises 1200 to 1800
da_champp: calls 1500
SirChimp: folds
*** FLOP ***   
da_champp: checks
Neab: checks
*** TURN *** 
da_champp: bets 2400
Neab: calls 2400
*** RIVER ***
da_champp: bets 4200
Neab: calls 4200
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Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:26 pm GMT by kompis
ok on the first one i think there is a case for folding preflop...... Then u check the flop... perhaps a bet here would be better? if he re raises he probably has you beat... but in this situation if u bet out just to fold to a re raise with top pair can sometimes be sh1t also. So u check call the flop ok, then on the turn u check raise... u are deep so i dont mind this move but the pot is getting bigger and bigger u re raise to a good amount tho so finding out where u are at least.. he calls now u have to think he has u beat? AJ AA KK QQ or a set i dont like the river bet at all but once u have made it i guess u have to call the re raise. I think u played the hand very wierd like u wanted value... but without knowing if u were strong in the hand.
Guess you read the guy for paint cards on the second one, hard to comment really as i cant make a read on him. But it looks like prety shit calls from u as he prolly had sumthing to call u with preflop....
Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:59 pm GMT by tame_deuces
H1: You sure end up putting alot of chips in with that KJ. 
H2: I don't get this hand. Why do you want to call down 7k chips with AK high but not c-bet? You've been stealing too much?
And calling down with AK high in NL is generally a bad move w/o some very good info on the player. Most of the time raising will be superior to calling.
Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:43 pm GMT by Ciso_B
once he called teh c/r on turn i know im beat, so I dont know why i bet like that on river, bad play hand 1, he had JJ.
Hand 2, he had A-3 - nothing.....Think 2nd one was quite easy call imo once i check flop he leads with alot of hands, most that dont connect with the board.
Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:20 pm GMT by TheSalche
| Ciso_B wrote: | | Hand 2, he had A-3 - nothing.....Think 2nd one was quite easy call imo once i check flop he leads with alot of hands, most that dont connect with the board. |
is that player specific or just "he" = dead money player
for hand 1, i think you need to raise or fold there, you're OOP with a weak hand and finding out where you were at cost you quite a bit of chips on the later streets, repopping to 6000 would be hot, but a fold is probably better
Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:56 pm GMT by Ciso_B
I agree that KJ hand I played quite atrociously -this was a deep stack mtt btw and I had been playing for ages so I think this contributed. Really poor post flop play.
The AK hand, this guy was creative enough to bet then bet river too. I didn't continuate on flop cos I thought there was a reasonable chance I was ahead and if I wasnt he wont fold on that flop. So I checked, then when he leads the turn I felt he picked up on weakness and took a shot. It was a goood turn card for me pairing the board also, and on the river when he leads I am even more sure I am ahead, cos he would check most hands on river fearing I am slowplaying a big pair (which I could do on rainbow board here).... bar trips and full house which I deemed unlikely. Yeah he was quite a bad player.
Posted Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:56 am GMT by kompis
nah i like the call with ak if u think u are ahead..... not like u have a lock on the hand best to keep the pot smaller, i mean if u re raise and he has a draw and he fancys a shot he might call it. then on the river when he sees how much in the pot he may bet really big to try and take down the pot, then u faced with a very tough decision on the river. If u think the AK is good then no need to swell the pot calling down is good
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