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ROI on your bankroll question



Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:27 pm GMT by hoiboi
Hi everyone, I guess this question is more for serious players/players who use poker as a source of income, etc.

Looking at the size of your bankroll as the amount of equity in your investment portfolio, what is the % return that you expect or strive for on let's say.. an annual basis?

I know that answers could vary but I wanted to get a sense of what poker players expect compared to someone in the stocks, real estate biz, whatever.


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Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:48 pm GMT by supafrey
About 200-400%, hopefully.


Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:35 pm GMT by shorn7
Quote:
About 200-400%, hopefully.


Well, this seems quite high to assume repeatable IMO. You might have individual years where it is 200%, but even the best pros will have bad years with marginal returns.

For me, I actually had a 1000% year last year ($6k to $72k), but going forward I would look for somewhere around 40-70% per annum and consider that good (I also don't play for a living, just after work and weekends).



Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:04 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Really depends on how much you start with an what stakes you're playing. Most of the time, a reasonable figure for an advantage in a game is 2% to 5%. If you're playing limit Poker, this means that you're doing well if you can make about 1 big bet per hour with a standard deviation around 10. In No Limit, this is harder to calculate.

The higher your roll, probably the lower your ROI will be, but your total profit will be greater if you're a winning player.



Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:09 pm GMT by Muck
Interesting question hoiboi.

I made about 400% the year before last playing low limits and thanks to a couple of nice tourney finishes.

Last year I made about 75% but part of that was just not having anytime to play.

It looks nice when you see those ROI percentages but this isn’t bank account, winning that money took hours.



Posted Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:40 am GMT by MrDarling
shorn7 wrote:
For me, I actually had a 1000% year last year ($6k to $72k)


You are my new hero. Sorry Supa.

But seriously, I learn a lot from your post, why don't you post more?



Posted Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:15 am GMT by shorn7
(Blush). Thanks, but I certainly don't deserve hero status.

Unfortunately my job gets in the way of my passion, but I try to at least scan a few times a day. To be honest, I really only reply to specific posts that I think I have a good opinion on, so a lot of the LHE stuff I don't since I don't play that game that much.

If you had a specific question that you wanted me to think on and I didn't reply to it oin the general forum, I am happy to do so. Just send me a private message and I will definitely get to it.



Posted Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:51 am GMT by hoiboi
Thanks guys for the great replies. Very helpful!





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