Posted Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:44 am GMT by exit music
This hand is potentially what caused me to get f*ck into not top 5ing the tournament tonight. It wasn't even a huge hit, but it took away too much of my stack for me to be in control of the table anymore.
PokerStars Game #7939737172: Tournament #40563710, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/01/14 - 19:47:22 (ET)Table '40563710 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: BlueCourt (11171 in chips)
Seat 2: astrodg (14139 in chips)
Seat 3: ainhot (10010 in chips)
Seat 4: Plus1Plus1 (11369 in chips)
Seat 5: pokerstud12 (12955 in chips)
Seat 6: pjevs (11980 in chips)
Seat 7: zVxUmW (5430 in chips)
Seat 8: billabong526 (7860 in chips)
BlueCourt: posts the ante 50
astrodg: posts the ante 50
ainhot: posts the ante 50
Plus1Plus1: posts the ante 50
pokerstud12: posts the ante
50pjevs: posts the ante 50
zVxUmW: posts the ante 50
billabong526: posts the ante 50
astrodg: posts small blind 300
ainhot: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to astrodg  
Plus1Plus1: folds
pokerstud12: folds
pjevs: folds
zVxUmW: folds
billabong526: folds
BlueCourt: raises 600 to 1200
astrodg: raises 2400 to 3600
ainhot: raises 2400 to 6000
BlueCourt: folds
astrodg: calls 2400
*** FLOP ***   
astrodg: checks
ainhot: bets 3600
astrodg: folds
ainhot collected 13600 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13600 | Rake 0 Board
Seat 1: BlueCourt (button) folded before Flop
Seat 2: astrodg (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: ainhot (big blind) collected (13600)
Seat 4: Plus1Plus1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: pokerstud12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: pjevs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: zVxUmW folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: billabong526 folded before Flop (didn't bet
SO you can see that this is a re-steal gone wrong. I really thought the player on my right was full of shit and he couldn't really stand a re-raise w/o a really solid hand. Unfortunately the BB picked up a monster and I lost the hand and a bunch of chips.
The questions:
Preflop is my original steal a good play?
Should I stand my opponent's min re-raise?
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Posted Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:06 am GMT by MrDarling
I hate everything about it.
First someone show some kind of strength - you have no real hand. If you want to steal you have to raise more then the min. Its push or fold baby.
2nd, you get reraised - time to admit your failure attempt and dump the hand. Why on earth are you calling the reraise?
Posted Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:30 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
I'll try to answer each question separately.
1. Preflop is my original steal a good play?
No. Here's why. Your opponent opened for a raise, and neither of you have very many chips. At this stage, "restealing" is far too risky a tactic, especially if others are left to act after you. You should only be stealing in this stage if no one has opened the pot and action has been folded to you, or if there has been a LIMP or two and the pot is full of dead money. Otherwise, if someone else opens for a raise, you should only be raising for value. OCCASIONALLY, if you are in the BB and someone has been attacking a lot from LP, it is ok to reraise on a bluff, because I do not risk someone after me picking up a hand. But here, I do not like the move. Restealing is an incredibly risky move and is rarely worth the trouble. You're better off trying to just steal your lost money back the next round.
2. Should I stand my opponent's min re-raise?
Absolutely not. Although you are getting good pot odds, calling here essentially commits your stack. Calling is by far the worst of your three options. Will a reraise work? You have to be kidding--the guy reraised against an opening raiser AND an immediate reraiser. This guy is going to have a big pair almost every time. Hence, if you can't call, and can't raise, you must fold.
You have courage, and I think that's good, but you should be looking for a little better spot than this. When stacks are so short, I rarely try to make any move unless it has a good shot of winning the pot outright, and sometimes you just have to a let a thief have a little money. Maybe next time you'll have a real hand to reraise with.
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