Insta-Bet and Insta-Raise on PokerStars |
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Posted Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:20 pm GMT by lwestatbus
I've noticed on several occassions, and one player in particular, on PokerStars the player's action after cards are dealt in any round are posted so close to the appearance of the cards that the action seems to be instant. In particular, either I have a pretty significant delay in seeing the cards compared to these other players or they are literally acting without looking at and considering the cards. On a couple of occassions I've seen both an initial bet and a subsequent raise so fast that they seem to appear with the cards. It seems to me that these actions tend to appear when the player in question has raised preflop and is obviously first to act post flop.
As a reminder, the Bet/Check/Raise/Fold buttons don't appear on Stars until the cards are dealt so I don't know of any way to preselect a choice.
The system consistently reports my connection as 100% and back in the old PokerRoom days it would report me as a 0.2 or 0.3 second delay, certainly not enough time for ME to have seen the cards and reacted.
Can anyone provide either a technological, tactical, or psychological explanation for this phenomenon?
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Posted Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:28 pm GMT by Gunslinger
One of the options is to have "animation" on or off. If it's off, you see your two cards instantly, while everyone else is seeing the animation of each card separately dealt around the table. It's only an extra second or two, but more than enough for the UTG player to click the fold button before everyone else's animation is done.
The Bet/Check/Raise/Fold buttons would appear instantly for anyone with their animation turned off as well, so they could have already clicked "raise any"
Posted Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:41 pm GMT by lwestatbus
| Gunslinger wrote: | One of the options is to have "animation" on or off. If it's off, you see your two cards instantly, while everyone else is seeing the animation of each card separately dealt around the table. It's only an extra second or two, but more than enough for the UTG player to click the fold button before everyone else's animation is done.
The Bet/Check/Raise/Fold buttons would appear instantly for anyone with their animation turned off as well, so they could have already clicked "raise any" |
This helps, but I'll have to experiment a little as I notice this behavior on the flop and later much more than preflop. It may be that the buttons are there before the cards in this circumstance and an aggressive player is betting/raising without seeing the cards. Again, with the players and circumstances when I do see this behavior it is in a typically aggressive player who might very well do this.
Thanks for the response and info.
Posted Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:09 am GMT by TheSalche
its most likely the animations, i took em off and it speeds things up a ton so im probably acting UTG before people get their cards
Posted Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:30 am GMT by groton
wow its the annamantion i just turned it off for the first time and wow its from nice speed to warp speed
Posted Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:38 am GMT by arras
| groton wrote: | | wow its the annamantion i just turned it off for the first time and wow its from nice speed to warp speed |
me too, thanks for this thread
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:51 am GMT by lwestatbus
I kept forgetting about this thread when I was playing until last night. I went in and turned the animations off but didn't like it. I'm old (or older) and set in my ways and didn't like the way the board just sort of blasted at you when the cards appeared. I felt like I was getting electro-shock treatments with every new deal. I turned them back on after just a few hands.
But Gunslinger's note sure does explain what I observed and I appreciate the insight.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:57 pm GMT by groton
yah i tried it and turned annamation back on
i was worried id have a Epalestic Sizzure or somthing
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