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Posted Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:27 pm GMT by Phil14312
I have a real solid image, I've basically just been showing down winning hands for the last two hours and the other players know it (no that they care, this is live poker BTW).
UTG: horrible player, plays 95% of his hands even the trashiest. Raises crappy hands preflop and calls with AA or KK. I've got a pretty good line on him as I've been sitting to his left all night and this is the second session we have played together. Postflop he will bet a lot of trashy hands, sometimes for value and sometimes bluffing. Frequently calls down with middle-pair. Basicall bets everytime he is checked to in LP.
MP2: bad asian gambler. Decent starting hand selection, will never fold TP or a draw, typical live player.
UTG limps, I limp with 22, MP2 raises. Folds to UTG who calls, I call.
UTG's raise here means AK, AA, KK, QQ, JJ, maybe TT, maybe AQ.
Flop:
Q 2 7
UTG checks...how do you get the most money in the pot.
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Posted Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:02 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
If MP2 usually throws a lead bet in there, go for the c/r on the flop. That should get two bets from both of them.
Posted Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:07 am GMT by TheSalche
Wait till 4th to get a raise in? the problem here is that MP2 might not two barrel a hand like AJ, etc.
Posted Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:58 am GMT by Dave B
I either bet the flop or slow play and see what developes with the idea that I will check raise on the river if the board and action stays vanilla.
Posted Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:56 pm GMT by jeffonline
As you have been showing down winning hands, IMO to get value on this flop you should call any bet or bet the minimum if it’s checked to you. In a late position you could be expected to bet if it is checked to you, the minimum bet could be seen a sign of weakness. I am looking to build the pot, I would check or call the turn to show further weakness and check raise the river with an over bet or an amount that I thought would get called.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:00 am GMT by aaronw
| jeffonline wrote: | | As you have been showing down winning hands, IMO to get value on this flop you should call any bet or bet the minimum if it’s checked to you. In a late position you could be expected to bet if it is checked to you, the minimum bet could be seen a sign of weakness. I am looking to build the pot, I would check or call the turn to show further weakness and check raise the river with an over bet or an amount that I thought would get called. |
I am not sure if you realize this or not, but this if fixed limit and he has no choice on what he bets. There is only one option.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:54 am GMT by jeffonline
| aaronw wrote: |
I am not sure if you realize this or not, but this if fixed limit and he has no choice on what he bets. There is only one option. |
O I withdraw my comments
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:59 am GMT by exit music
I like the old "checkraise, then lead out" play here. If you don't think you can checkraise just bet bet and keeping betting.
Posted Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:08 pm GMT by Phil14312
Sorry its been awhile, I was out of town.
We have to remember the range of hands that MP2 has is fairly slim, and we basically have everything but QQ drawing very thin. I'm not at all worried about UTG as we will have him beat by the river like 100% of the time, but we do want his dead money in the pot.
I checked, MP2 bet, UTG called, I called.
Turn: Q
So now the board is Q 2 7 Q.
UTG leads out (BTW he has a queen here like 10% of the time only).
Whats our play?
Posted Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:51 pm GMT by TheSalche
Call and let MP2 raise so you can 3bet
If all else fails, raise the river
Posted Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:30 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Call the turn (if he's that unlikely to have a Q) and be prepared to raise the river.
Posted Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:09 am GMT by Phil14312
I called the turn. MP2 called as well.
River is a king and UTG checks to me.
I bet, MP2 raises, UTG folds, we...call, raise, or fold?
Posted Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:01 am GMT by Sean_in_NJ
3-bet. Cry if he shows KK.
Posted Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:02 pm GMT by TheSalche
| Sean_in_NJ wrote: | | 3-bet. Cry when he shows KK. |
FYP
Posted Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:49 pm GMT by groton
yes 3Bet
Posted Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:25 am GMT by Phil14312
Whats villains range to raise a river bet here after no raise on the turn?
Would you still 3-bet?
This is a certain type of live player that is almost never tricky. Bets their made hands and check/calls with draws and hands that may not be good but are too good to fold. If that makes sense.
Posted Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:20 am GMT by Sean_in_NJ
Unfortunately, I can't answer this unless I was in the game myself. If MP perceives you the same way you do, then a 3-bet is probably a spew. If I'm MP, I'm uncomfortable when I see you even call the turn, so I'm not raising the river without the nuts, or close to it.
That being said, you haven't shown any aggression in this hand yet, so AA, AK and AQ are still in his raising range IMO.
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