Posted Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:37 pm GMT by BigSlick34
Good evening everyone,
Hope everyones making that money tonight:)
I was wondering if anyone out there can help me on my cash games a bit. I play very low limits (10$ max buy-in) and want to know how I can play better in those. I play exactly like I would play in a tourny which obviously isn't a good idea when it comes to straight money. What hands should i bet hard on etc. if someone is betting on a draw with a 2$ pot how much should i bet etc. Anything to help a little amateur:) Thanks all
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Posted Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:09 pm GMT by Ensano
if you're playing cash games regularly you'll defenately benefit by getting a tracking software (ie, pokertracker) it will pay for itself.
As for how much to bet, one of the best tell online is learning betting patterns (how much they bet, when they bet and so on) so my best advice is don't do the same mistake as everyone else. Always keep your bets as the same amount, 1/3 the pot is enought to price out draws for 1 caller. your Cbet should also be 1/3 pot even if you missed (I roll my eyes whenever I see someoene min bet when checked to with their draws)
If you play tight straighforeward (ABC poker) you'll be up in the long run. That means no slowplaying!!! Don't get fancy trapping when you flop a set or straight. There are so many fish and people that just don't care what the board reads that'll you'll get paid far more than if you were to slowplay. Always play agressively, that means don't call MP with AJo.. fold it until you can raise in LP with it. The only time you should be limpingis with suited connectors (NOT suited on-gappers). I'd only limp or call a raise unless you're getting 2-1 on your money... suited aces are also playable from LP or MP only if there are a bunch of limpers making the pot nice and juicy. raising the standard raise from the button or CO with ANY playable hand (AK. 56s, 66) is a great way to disguise your hand and give you authoritaun for a nice Cbet.
If you called a raise and you hit something, anything, even a draw bet it. Take away the chance for the raiser to cbet. Don't c/r! That's garbage play at these levels. If you have position on the raiser and they cbet then raise, even with your draws. (2.5-3x the bet is usually a good raise)
Now this might be a leak in my game so take is as you like but at these levels I ALWAYS cbet no matter what board no matter how many people. Because I'm only raising with big hands EP and MP I'll usually have something for a cbet and when I've raised in LP if it's checked to me then the pot is there to be stolen. If there's a ton of action in front of you and you have nothing you can get away. If someone plays back at you, you can always fold. The trick is getting to know when you're beat, then all you have to do if fold.
That's pretty much it....
Oh, and DONT get all in with just a pair... even if it's TPTK....
Man I can't believe I just wrote everything I know about poker in 5 mins
Posted Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:39 pm GMT by mortaleclipse
Best play ever in cash game with TPTK 
1/2NL
Villian 1 - 135$
Villian 2 - 105$
Villian 3 - 180$
Hero - 125$
Hero on front of button with A  10
Raise from Villian 1 under the gun to 6 dollars , call, I call and button calls
Flop comes 2  9 10 
Villian 1 bets 10 dollars, fold and to me and I raise to 25 dollars then button raises to 40 dollars  . Villian 1 folds and I just call. Hmm what could he have, Im thinking if another spade comes im going to represent the flush and push  . Well what do you know
Turn - j I push and button insta calls, f*ck
River I dont even know and showdown shows Villian Ace
9 and I win like a 270 dollar pot with just TPTK on flop. After it the guy who raised under the gun said he had jacks and thought we had a set. How beatiful and to show you the donks are at all levels, how do you call a massive bet on the turn with middle pair?
The play was pretty horrible but I felt he wasnt that strong, the table was looser then a hooker in Vegas. Try to stick to the basics and feal feal feal the oppenents on how they have been betting and what kind of hands they show in showdown. Knowing your oppenent and how they read you is very important.
Posted Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:51 pm GMT by aaronw
| Ensano wrote: | if you're playing cash games regularly you'll defenately benefit by getting a tracking software (ie, pokertracker) it will pay for itself.
As for how much to bet, one of the best tell online is learning betting patterns (how much they bet, when they bet and so on) so my best advice is don't do the same mistake as everyone else. Always keep your bets as the same amount, 1/3 the pot is enought to chace out draws for 1 caller. your Cbet should also be 1/3 pot even if you missed (I roll my eyes whenever I see someoene min bet when checked to with their draws)
If you play tight straighforeward (ABC poker) you'll be up in the long run. That means no slowplaying!!! Don't get fancy trapping when you flop a set or straight. There are so many fish and people that just don't care what the board reads that'll you'll get paid far more than if you were to slowplay. Always play agressively, that means don't call MP with AJo.. fold it until you can raise in LP with it. The only time you should be limpingis with suited connectors (NOT suited on-gappers). I'd only limp or call a raise unless you're getting 2-1 on your money... suited aces are also playable from LP or MP only if there are a bunch of limpers making the pot nice and juicy. raising the standard raise from the button or CO with ANY playable hand (AK. 56s, 66) is a great way to disguise your hand and give you authoritaun for a nice Cbet.
If you called a raise and you hit something, anything, even a draw bet it. Take away the chance for the raiser to cbet. Don't c/r! That's garbage play at these levels. If you have position on the raiser and they cbet then raise, even with your draws. (2.5-3x the bet is usually a good raise)
Now this might be a leak in my game so take is as you like but at these levels I ALWAYS cbet no matter what board no matter how many people. Because I'm only raising with big hands EP and MP I'll usually have something for a cbet and when I've raised in LP if it's checked to me then the pot is there to be stolen. If there's a ton of action in front of you and you have nothing you can get away. If someone plays back at you, you can always fold. The trick is getting to know when you're beat, then all you have to do if fold.
That's pretty much it....
Oh, and DONT get all in with just a pair... even if it's TPTK....
Man I can't believe I just wrote everything I know about poker in 5 mins |
In my opinion, I think that is a pretty bad blanket statement.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:03 am GMT by BigSlick34
You don't know how helpful that was, thanks a TON!
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:21 am GMT by khaosanroad
quote="Ensano"
1/3 the pot is enought to chace out draws for 1 caller.
Not in low stakes. They will call pot size bets and not blink.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:11 pm GMT by Ensano
quote="khaosanroad" | Ensano wrote: |
1/3 the pot is enought to chace out draws for 1 caller.
Not in low stakes. They will call pot size bets and not blink. |
sorry was tired when typing that...
1/3 the pot is enought to price out draws for 1 caller.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:16 pm GMT by Ensano
| aaronw wrote: | | In my opinion, I think that is a pretty bad blanket statement. |
Actually I think it's one of the best... Not calling an allin with just a pair will prob 4 out of 5 times turn a new/losing player into at least a break even one...
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:53 pm GMT by aaronw
| Ensano wrote: | | aaronw wrote: | | In my opinion, I think that is a pretty bad blanket statement. |
Actually I think it's one of the best... Not calling an allin with just a pair will prob 4 out of 5 times turn a new/losing player into at least a break even one... |
You cannot just look at ahand like that. I think you have to analyze the hand instead of just thinking "he went all in, I only have top pair, I FOLD" I think this will lead to you getting pushed around a lot and making some bad folds. There are definately times where you don't want to get it all in with top pair and there are other times it would probably be a good idea.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:21 pm GMT by Dave B
If the flop is AA4 and you have K3, do you have top pair, top kicker?
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:26 pm GMT by Ensano
even with my agressive style of play the only times people are ready to get all in with me is when i'm a huge dog. I get c/r a lot and make plays accordingly and I can go through my last 20K+ hands to prove that whenever I call an all in with only 1 pair (of course we're not taking about TP nut flush draw or straight draws) I was up again a made hand... When it boils down to it 5 outs isn't good enough to call an all in. Pushing with a pair is something completely different. for 25$NL my winrate is 7.5 ptBB/100, so I know what I'm taking about for these limits. I never call an allin with TP. It just isn't +EV
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:35 pm GMT by BigSlick34
Anyone here play on bodog, that I can come by and just watch them play? Talk over aim while playing or anything just so i can learn a style?
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:48 pm GMT by aaronw
| Ensano wrote: | | even with my agressive style of play the only times people are ready to get all in with me is when i'm a huge dog. I get c/r a lot and make plays accordingly and I can go through my last 20K+ hands to prove that whenever I call an all in with only 1 pair (of course we're not taking about TP nut flush draw or straight draws) I was up again a made hand... When it boils down to it 5 outs isn't good enough to call an all in. Pushing with a pair is something completely different. for 25$NL my winrate is 7.5 ptBB/100, so I know what I'm taking about for these limits. I never call an allin with TP. It just isn't +EV |
You have to look at the situation instead of just saying "I have TPTK and he went all in so I have to fold." Example:
Villain is 50/20/8. You have AK on a board of A52. He leads into you, you raise and he goes all-in. Are you just automatically folding because he went all-in?
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:08 pm GMT by arras
| aaronw wrote: |
You have to look at the situation instead of just saying "I have TPTK and he went all in so I have to fold." Example:
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SS Donk
http://www.pokerhand.org/?750478
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:04 pm GMT by Gunslinger
Well, he did have TP plus the flush draw plus the backdoor straight draw (which he almost hit). Your overbet of the pot suggested you wanted to take it down on the flop with a strong but vulnerable hand. So his push was more of a semi-bluff with a little fold equity. Maybe not the best play, but not quite a donk, either.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:28 pm GMT by Ensano
| arras wrote: | | aaronw wrote: |
You have to look at the situation instead of just saying "I have TPTK and he went all in so I have to fold." Example:
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SS Donk
http://www.pokerhand.org/?750478 |
ok so someone made a acceptable semi bluff and you were married to a pair.. what does that ONE hand prove? Out of 22591 last hands I've played the won at showdown % for 1 pair is 33%.
As for the HH you showed I feel that that is weak play. Full ring UTG limping with AJo is not +EV. You then overbet the pot and called a 10$ bet into a 6$ pot with just a pair. Even SS says you don't go broke in an unraised pot. of possible hands you where behind 10 3, J3, pocket 3s, 1010, KQdiamons, J10, AA, KK, QQ (8 hands).. I guess no one who'd push there would ever have something... not to mention the semi bluff for the flush or open straight draw. You don't state any reads for this villian to be an exceptionally maniacle player so calling the all in would be bad play in the long run. You won that one hand so I'm happy for you but don't teach the new guy to be a fish
I was playing black jack the other day. The dealer was showing a 2 so I decided to split my jacks. I stuck on 16 on both hands and the dealer busted. I won 50$. Does that make my play correct? or maybe I just got lucky that one time...
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:37 pm GMT by Ensano
| aaronw wrote: | | Ensano wrote: | | even with my agressive style of play the only times people are ready to get all in with me is when i'm a huge dog. I get c/r a lot and make plays accordingly and I can go through my last 20K+ hands to prove that whenever I call an all in with only 1 pair (of course we're not taking about TP nut flush draw or straight draws) I was up again a made hand... When it boils down to it 5 outs isn't good enough to call an all in. Pushing with a pair is something completely different. for 25$NL my winrate is 7.5 ptBB/100, so I know what I'm taking about for these limits. I never call an allin with TP. It just isn't +EV |
You have to look at the situation instead of just saying "I have TPTK and he went all in so I have to fold." Example:
Villain is 50/20/8. You have AK on a board of A52. He leads into you, you raise and he goes all-in. Are you just automatically folding because he went all-in? |
lol.. it depends. If we were both deep and the pot was small I'd probably fold.. With true maniacs you'll know you'll pick up a good hand eventually so why risk it all on 1 pair... but if it was say a situation where.....
AK on the button I raise to .75 villian calls in MP
pot 1.75.. flop A52 villian bets 2$ I raise to 6$ and then villain pushes for 10$ more then yeah I'd have to call given his play and getting 2:1 on my money.. but that's given that extreme situation...
but don't believe me.. if you use a tracking software try this for yourself... stop calling all ins with only a pair... after 10k hands your ptbb/100 will go up... if it goes down I will pay you the difference...
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:38 pm GMT by aaronw
You have to look at the hand though. You just can't make a blanket statement like that though. There are times when you shouldn't stack off with one pair, but there are also times when you can call safely. I think you should focus on making the right decision instead of just thinking "I only have 1 pair, I have to fold" Try analyzing the hand and take it from there.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:47 pm GMT by tame_deuces
| aaronw wrote: | | You have to look at the hand though. You just can't make a blanket statement like that though. There are times when you shouldn't stack off with one pair, but there are also times when you can call safely. I think you should focus on making the right decision instead of just thinking "I only have 1 pair, I have to fold" Try analyzing the hand and take it from there. |
QFT.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:49 pm GMT by supafrey
http://www.pokerhand.org/?752027
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:50 pm GMT by arras
| Ensano wrote: | | arras wrote: | | aaronw wrote: |
You have to look at the situation instead of just saying "I have TPTK and he went all in so I have to fold." Example:
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SS Donk
http://www.pokerhand.org/?750478 |
ok so someone made a acceptable semi bluff and you were married to a pair.. what does that ONE hand prove? Out of 22591 last hands I've played the won at showdown % for 1 pair is 33%.
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one hand does proves nothing and there was reason I limped utg, due to the way the table was playing. I'm just agreeing that you have to look at the situation and I had a HH from last night handy.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:01 pm GMT by Ensano
yeah there are situations where it is correct to call but they are few and far between...
the origional poster was looking for beginner information on how to play... I think for a beginner, folding a pair to an all in is the best way to go
Hand #1
Texas Hold'em $0.50-$1 NL (real money), hand #126,311,996
Table Roanoke, 14 Feb 2006 3:37 PM ET
Seat 1: joysi1234 ($50.00 in chips)
Seat 2: Canuck46 ($23.80 in chips)
Seat 3: mike_ford ($64.30 in chips)
Seat 4: mdkane ($40.65 in chips)
Seat 5: Agnetaw ($50.00 in chips)
Seat 6: Mr. Olson ($87.60 in chips)
Seat 7: Fatsalerno ($68.20 in chips)
Seat 8: hanzi 0 ($45.55 in chips)
Seat 9: brillorm ($60.60 in chips)
Seat 10: Ensano1 KHQD ($59.65 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
Ensano1 posts blind ($0.25), joysi1234 posts blind ($0.50), Agnetaw posts blind ($0.50).
PRE-FLOP
Canuck46 calls $0.50, mike_ford calls $0.50, mdkane folds, Agnetaw checks, Mr. Olson calls $0.50, Fatsalerno folds, hanzi 0 calls $0.50, brillorm folds, Ensano1 calls $0.25, joysi1234 checks.
FLOP board cards 3SJSQH
Ensano1 bets $3.30, joysi1234 folds, Canuck46 folds, mike_ford folds, Agnetaw folds, Mr. Olson calls $3.30, hanzi 0 folds.
TURN board cards 3SJSQH5D
Ensano1 bets $6, Mr. Olson bets $15, Ensano1 bets $49.85 and is all-in, Mr. Olson calls $40.85.
RIVER board cards 3SJSQH5D7S
SHOWDOWN
Ensano1 shows KHQD
Mr. Olson shows QSJD
Mr. Olson wins $120.80.
SUMMARY
Dealer: brillorm
Pot: $121.80 | Rake: $1
joysi1234 loses $0.50
Canuck46 loses $0.50
mike_ford loses $0.50
mdkane loses $0
Agnetaw loses $0.50
Mr. Olson bets $59.65, collects $120.80, net $61.15
Fatsalerno loses $0
hanzi 0 loses $0.50
brillorm loses $0
Ensano1 loses $59.65
Hand #2
Texas Hold'em $0.25-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #98,183,988
Table Los Altos, 7 Feb 2006 9:36 PM ET
Seat 1: shaqdaddy34x ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 2: ligeti23 ($32.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Sn4tch777 ($53.00 in chips)
Seat 4: Ensano1 9S9C ($72.60 in chips)
Seat 5: bram_that ($29.25 in chips)
Seat 6: irishpub021 ($43.00 in chips)
Seat 7: newexp4me ($43.55 in chips)
Seat 9: laxguy1984 ($23.35 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
bram_that posts blind ($0.15), irishpub021 posts blind ($0.25).
PRE-FLOP
newexp4me folds, laxguy1984 folds, shaqdaddy34x calls $0.25, ligeti23 folds, Sn4tch777 calls $0.25, Ensano1 bets $1, bram_that folds, irishpub021 folds, shaqdaddy34x calls $0.75, Sn4tch777 calls $0.75.
FLOP board cards 2D6D5S
shaqdaddy34x checks, Sn4tch777 checks, Ensano1 bets $3.15, shaqdaddy34x calls $3.15, Sn4tch777 bets $7, Ensano1 bets $68.45 and is all-in, shaqdaddy34x folds, Sn4tch777 calls $45 and is all-in.
TURN board cards 2D6D5SKH
RIVER board cards 2D6D5SKH10C
SHOWDOWN
Ensano1 shows 9S9C
Sn4tch777 shows 5H6H
Sn4tch777 wins $110.05, Ensano1 wins $19.60.
SUMMARY
Dealer: Ensano1
Pot: $130.15 | Rake: $0.50
shaqdaddy34x loses $4.15
ligeti23 loses $0
Sn4tch777 bets $53, collects $110.05, net $57.05
Ensano1 bets $72.60, collects $19.60, net $-53
bram_that loses $0.15
irishpub021 loses $0.25
newexp4me loses $0
laxguy1984 loses $0
Hand #3
** Game ID 736754631 starting - 2006-03-27 16:55:35
** Indiana Jones Hold 'em (0.25|0.50 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money
- zeroMAC sitting in seat 1 with $45.00
- Ensano sitting in seat 2 with $51.55
- Pokermax29 sitting in seat 3 with $20.20
- cutile sitting in seat 4 with $49.45 Dealer
- nilaland sitting in seat 5 with $58.65
- Nossna sitting in seat 6 with $63.80
- Uturn sitting in seat 7 with $46.15
- benkahuna sitting in seat 8 with $2.00
- Lalle_Lalle sitting in seat 9 with $50.00
- sob380 sitting in seat 10 with $50.00 Sitting out
nilaland posted the small blind - $0.25
Nossna posted the big blind - $0.50
** Dealing card to Ensano: Jack of Clubs, Jack of Spades
Uturn called - $0.50
benkahuna folded
Lalle_Lalle called - $0.50
zeroMAC folded
Ensano raised - $1.50
Pokermax29 folded
cutile folded
nilaland folded
Nossna folded
Uturn called - $1.50
Lalle_Lalle called - $1.50
** Dealing the flop: 6 of Spades, 4 of Clubs, 8 of Spades
Uturn checked
Lalle_Lalle bet - $5.00
Ensano raised - $15.00
Uturn folded
Lalle_Lalle called - $15.00
** Dealing the turn: Ace of Diamonds
Lalle_Lalle checked
Ensano bet - $20.00
Lalle_Lalle went all-in - $33.50
Ensano called - $33.50
Lalle_Lalle shows: 6 of Hearts, 6 of Clubs
** Dealing the river: 10 of Clubs
Lalle_Lalle wins $99.25 from the main pot
End of game 736754631
and so on... I can find HHs also...
another
** Game ID 735576056 starting - 2006-03-26 17:50:23
** Hidden Track Hold 'em (0.25|0.50 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money
- Ensano sitting in seat 2 with $47.75
- Nossna sitting in seat 3 with $65.65 Dealer
- mrgreeeen sitting in seat 4 with $50.75
- AA692540AA sitting in seat 5 with $49.70
- J_Bore sitting in seat 6 with $50.00 Sitting out
- Winston_smit sitting in seat 7 with $66.60
- jam1957 sitting in seat 8 with $11.45
- KmManulla sitting in seat 9 with $69.75
- Uturn sitting in seat 10 with $49.50
mrgreeeen posted the small blind - $0.25
AA692540AA posted the big blind - $0.50
** Dealing card to Ensano: Ace of Diamonds, Ace of Hearts
Winston_smit folded
jam1957 folded
KmManulla raised - $1.00
Uturn called - $1.00
Ensano raised - $3.00
Nossna folded
mrgreeeen called - $3.00
AA692540AA folded
KmManulla called - $3.00
Uturn called - $3.00
** Dealing the flop: 2 of Spades, 4 of Clubs, 8 of Clubs
mrgreeeen checked
KmManulla checked
Uturn bet - $4.00
Ensano raised - $12.00
mrgreeeen folded
KmManulla folded
Uturn went all-in - $42.50
Ensano went all-in - $32.75
Uturn shows: 2 of Clubs, 2 of Hearts
** Dealing the turn: 7 of Clubs
** Dealing the river: 3 of Clubs
Uturn wins $99.00 from the main pot
End of game 735576056
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:09 pm GMT by TheSalche
Ensano,
Please edit your hands so I don't hurt my eyes anymore.
Hand 1: Don't limp along with KQo, it plays poorly multiway. Don't 3-bet AI on the turn with TPGK in a limped pot. DONT GO BROKE IN UNRAISED POTS
Hand 2: Raise a bit more preflop, rest is pretty good
Hand 3: Jesus, what a weak preflop raise. I'm actually glad he hit a set on you and stacked you. If you plan on taking away implied odds from low PPs raise more! I don't like the flop raise also, this hand would've been easily check/folded on the turn if you did.
Hand 4: (The AA one) Again, why are you raising so small preflop? When you take a look at it, this guy basically got dominoed into calling (last to act, many callers in front)
There are many times when you shouldn't stack off with one pair, but you need to make enough money on the pots when you DON'T stack off.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:15 pm GMT by aaronw
You have shown hands where you overplayed the one pair hands. There are certainly times where you should fold your one pair hands and there are other times when you should call. You have to analzy the situation not just make a blanket assumption like that. In those hands you showed, there are not many hands that they can be betting besides a pure bluff. You don't beat many hands there, you are just overplaying one pair hands.
Hand 1- what do you think that he is calling on the flop with and then raising the turn? Your one pair is no good.
Hand 2- You got married to your overpair. What do you think he is raising there? The only hands you beat are a poorly played AK, 77,88, or a draw.
Hand 3- You overplayed your JJ on that board. What hand did you put him on on the flop?
Hand 4- Bad luck.
Sorry if this sounds harsh, but you showed some examples where you overplayed some hands and are unable to laydown a one pair hand when there isn't much you can beat. You have to analze the hand, put them on a hand and go from there. Don't just think "I have a pair and he went all-in so I have to fold".
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:18 pm GMT by Ensano
| TheSalche wrote: | | ... why are you raising so small preflop? |
this is one of main things i'm trying to get into the habbit of doing... usually my raises when multi tabling are all the same...3xbb or 3x the initial raise.. as you can obviously see I've giving way too good of odds to call in some reraise situations..
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:20 pm GMT by aaronw
| Ensano wrote: | | TheSalche wrote: | | ... why are you raising so small preflop? |
this is one of main things i'm trying to get into the habbit of doing... usually my raises when multi tabling are all the same...3xbb or 3x the initial raise.. as you can obviously see I've giving way too good of odds to call in some reraise situations.. |
I generally raise 3.5BB + 1BB per limper. With so many people limping in you have to raise more because each person will have great odds to call your raise.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:40 pm GMT by TheSalche
yup and then the 'domino effect' of the first person making a -EV call of your raise causes the last person to make a +EV call of your raise, that is bad
also i'd recommend bumping that number up from 3x to 4x ... personal preference i suppose, but i view 3x raises as pretty weak and i'll tend to call with more hands in position etc
of course ive never played you, so that might not matter 
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:46 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
If you're a strong post flop player, giving people better odds to call in position with weak hands they are liable to misplay is not usually a problem.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:06 pm GMT by tame_deuces
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | | If you're a strong post flop player, giving people better odds to call in position with weak hands they are liable to misplay is not usually a problem. |
While this is true (to some extent, alot of people overestimate how good they are) but we also have to consider if they are also liable to call with worse odds. Thus we can get the best from both worlds.
I know what you meant, and am not 'attacking' that viewpoint, just adding an afterthought.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:20 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
And it is a good point; I just think people put WAY too much emphasis on preflop play, which is a major mistake in deep-stacked No Limit.
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:40 pm GMT by aaronw
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | | And it is a good point; I just think people put WAY too much emphasis on preflop play, which is a major mistake in deep-stacked No Limit. |
Would you consider 100BB deep stacked?
Posted Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:55 pm GMT by LeafsFan1122
Yup.
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