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Posted Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:41 am GMT by Eusebio
Hi!
Played a hand yesterday and I would like to know, what you think about about it.
NLHE Blinds 1/2
I have a bit less than 200
2 limpers from early position (did not mean anything, since they didnt slowplay good hands)
Middle position raises to 10... The raise does not mean much. He is loose aggressive, raised before with hands like J8os... uses his stack (about 500) to terrorize the table
Everybody folds to me in the SB and I look down: 9c 8c
I was almost sure that the Bigblind (callingstation) would call and probably one of the limpers, so I thought it might be a good spot to see a flop.I call, so does Bigblind. Limpers fold.
30in the Pot (3 rake, 1 JP)
Flop comes 6h 7s 9d
I thought I had the best hand, but checked... probably a mistake, how do you think?
So does BB and Middle position raises to 30... thought about reraising, but he would definitly push all in, if I raise. I call, so does BB.
120 in the Pot
Turn comes 4d
I check... again mistake or do you think its better to lead out, knowing he could/will push all-in?
BB checks, MP raises to 50
I have top pair, a huge draw and probably my hand is best right now. I noticed that he would slow down on the turn, if got callers and when he has nothing, so I was a bit worried, but made the call. BB folds
The River is a Th.
After looking at the flop for I while, I was pushing all-in with the rest (about 100). I was pretty sure that he would call because of the turnraise... He called and turned over 6s 7d
After I saw his hand I felt pretty much like a donkey, I think I made huge mistakes on every street, even on the river...
You have any Ideas? except" fold preflop" 
Thanks
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Posted Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:21 am GMT by crack
I am a little out of touch when it comes to NLH cash but I will give it a go. First off hands like 98s are good, but in the SB they are extremely difficult to play and I am not sure but I'd say that calling a raise with this against a player in your own words "will probably push an all in" it is possibly a losing play to call the raise OOP for all those times you flop nothing and can't get him off the hand.
I think with another player in I would have lead out to see what happens. You might get lucky and get call call. As you said though, you reckon you have the best hand here with top pair plus the redraw to the straight if you are wrong. I think if he does raise you can push all in here if he seems to be the type who might call with a lower PP/AK/AQ etc.
As I said, my NLH cash game isn't that great at the moment because I haven't really played it for 6 months.
Posted Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:42 pm GMT by groton
i say you made a good call preflop and flop but i would of Bet out on the Turn. and the river that was a no brainer
98S vs some Maniacac is a great hand but being OOP is the only Scary thing there
Posted Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:06 am GMT by Eusebio
true, the call preflop was indeed a very questionable play, knowing who I am up against.
I had to flop the nuts or close to it... and we all know the possibility, but as groton said, its also possible to take a chance, since he could have anything... borderlinedecision...
two facts that played a huge role where following:
1) In 3 hours I had once AK and once AQ. when i had a PP there was too much action (like raise, reraise, all-in... had 99 etc), AK and AQ have been raised, no help on the flop, c/bet, reraise... So I guess I was a bit angry about that run.
2) The raise was cheap! Sounds stupid, but I posted it in another topic: standartraise is 15, but often they will put in 20 or even 30
And then I was actually trying to not be in a big pot with just a pair of nines... an that is, @groton, why i didnt lead out, eventhough I should have...
Given the circumstances, lets say I bet on the flop 30. BB would call and OR would raise or come over the top and push all-in... I definitly would have to call a raise (lets say he raises to 100) but an All-in... its hard to call giving me odds of about 1,625:1... thats not much...
leading out on the turn, on the other hand, would make me potcommitted, since I would have to bet about 80 leaving me with 80...
i am still learning, so tell me please, if my ideas are stupid :D
Posted Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:50 am GMT by crack
I don't think the call is borderline, I think it is a pretty clear fold from where I am standing. Marginal hands against a LAG OOP = -EV I am sure of it.
Swap SB with the button and I will quite happily call.
Thing is you haven't just got a pair of 9's you got an OESD with it which is a strong draw. You might even have the best hand right now at least against the LAG. You want to lead to keep the other player hopefully in the pot to give you the odds to play and also to give your hand a bit of deception.
If you check call and then the BB raises you are caught in the sandwhich effect, so lead out and find out where you are. if the BB folds then alright that's not too bad because it gives you more of a chance to beat the LAG.
I prefer to be the aggressor and that's my style which is why I think it's best to lead, rightly or wrongly.
Posted Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:45 am GMT by tame_deuces
Vs a light raiser you won't really gain much from calling OOP with an implied odds hand as crack has pointed out, you're better off battling them in positon and bluffing them out of pots with your speculative hands and playing good hands aggressively.
I also agree with leading or somehow being the aggressor. It also depends on what kind of hands the lag likes to raise (yeah, it differs!), which is very important when deciding when to bluff/think you have the best hands.
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