Posted Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:57 pm GMT by ziggy21
Just started playing about 6-7 months ago. Read some books and read a lot of the "old" posts on here, some great insight.
I have a question about "outs":
I have been dealt 10H and 9H
The flop is 8S JH 4C
I now have 8 outs to make my straight (4 7s and 4 Qs)....
I need running hearts to give me my flush...how do I determine the chances for that? I know after the flop I can multiply my outs by 4 and after the turn I multiply those outs by 2....how does this apply here? Probably stupid question and obvious but ........
Something similar but different:
I think I've read where I take my number of outs and subtract them from the number of unseen cards. That is the number of cards that can't help me. Then I divide the number of outs into the # of cards that can't help me.....is this correct?
I've also seen where I divide my # of outs into the unseen cards and those are my odds for my outs.
Sorry if I've confused everyone but the more I read the more I see different ways of calculating all of these odds/outs.
If anyone can give me an easy way to remember all of this, please let me know.
Thanks,
Zig
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Posted Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:23 pm GMT by Adam Marshall
See...
http://www.texasholdem-poker.com/odds2.php
Posted Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:23 pm GMT by Gunslinger
If you need running cards for a flush (this is called a backdoor flush draw), this adds the equivalent of one and a half outs to the number of outs you already have. So, for your example, you would have about 9 and a half outs when determining if you are getting the correct odds to draw.
The rule of 2 and 4 is good. Just make sure if you use the rule of 4 on the flop, this is your chance of making your draw by the river, not your odds just to see the turn.
As for the rest, I think that's too confusing. Check out the "odds chart" link on the left, which will show you the pot odds you need for all the different number of outs you might have. The easiest thing to do is just memorize the odds you need from a 4 out draw to about a 12 out draw, as these are the situations you'll be in the most. When you have a backdoor flush draw, just add 1 and a half to your total.
Hope this helps.
Posted Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:04 am GMT by ziggy21
Thanks guys!
It's just that I've seen a couple of ways to calculate pots odds and out odds that I'm getting confused............ 
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