medium flush - do you ever fold this? |
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Posted Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:17 pm GMT by MrDarling
Full Tilt Poker Game #1712579333: Table Civic Center - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:05:39 ET - 2007/02/01
Seat 1: hero ($13.60)
Seat 2: UR no dasiy ($7.55)
Seat 3: Faithful_13 ($9.60)
Seat 4: kvanvel ($9.30)
Seat 5: titleist54 ($4.25)
Seat 6: DW2005_YT ($9.60)
Seat 7: dnoll808 ($5.90)
Seat 8: Chicco1 ($9.20)
Seat 9: Trailblazer1 ($14.35)
hero posts the small blind of $0.05
UR no dasiy posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero  
Faithful_13 folds
kvanvel folds
titleist54 calls $0.10
dnoll808 calls $0.10
Chicco1 folds
Trailblazer1 calls $0.10
hero calls $0.05
UR no dasiy checks
*** FLOP ***   
hero bets $1
UR no dasiy folds
titleist54 raises to $4.15, and is all in
Hero ?
I overbet because villain just told someone a couple of hands ago that no one pushes with a made hand. Also didn't want to let a higher hart the incentive to chase.
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Posted Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:29 pm GMT by BeerWench13
It's possible that he already has a higher flush, but I would be more apt to put him on A  x off. Possibly a 3, 9 or J to go with his heart, but I doubt it. 2 pair is also a possibility. It seems that he certainly doesn't want a call.
P.S. Don't let anything anyone says in the chat influence your play.
Posted Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:42 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
Call
(and then cry when he outdraws)
Edit: after going thru it again i'd be surprised if he's raising on a draw, much more likely to have top pr, possibly a heart in his hand but I think he puts you on a draw and is raising to protect top pr.
Posted Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:14 pm GMT by shorn7
No. I never fold this. If he had a better flush than you, why would he raise your hideous overbet? Call and hope he doesn't outdraw.
Posted Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:12 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
In this particular situation, there is no possible way I fold.
Posted Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:57 pm GMT by groton
Call
Posted Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:45 pm GMT by MrDarling
Do you guys think stack size take part in the decision?
To me seeing I started the hand with 36XBB over the max buyin while he only hold 40XBB made the call much easier...
Don't know how easy it will be to call had he had me covered.
What do you guys think about my flop bet?
I want to explain my read about him. Like stated few rounds before, he busted an even Shorter stack calling allin on a flop with bottom pair (3).
When the pusher (who missed his draw) berate him, he proudly said he made a good read , he his always right and no one push with a made hand.
That is the main reason why I over bet, was hoping he had some kind of a hand and will continue with his "read" of how everyone play 
Posted Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:30 pm GMT by tame_deuces
At 10 NL I couldn't even begin to contemplate folding a threeflush in a HU pot.
Easy call, I wouldn't worry about this the least untill you have 4-5 times the buy-in, and even then I think you should just worry and click call anyway.
Posted Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:24 pm GMT by Jauron
This example I rarely fold, but yes I do fold this hand ever.
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