Stupid Early Crazy Moves with J-2 |
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Posted Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:13 pm GMT by Ciso_B
PokerStars Game #8234642059: Tournament #40962371, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/02/01 - 21:07:07 (ET)
Table '40962371 52' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: splaaat (1160 in chips)
Seat 2: Razors01 (2750 in chips)
Seat 3: Neab (1930 in chips)
Seat 4: Sklansky13 (2200 in chips)
Seat 5: berbah1 (1970 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: youngVeezy (2010 in chips)
Seat 7: chuckey3 (2020 in chips)
Seat 8: thaunlucky1 (1970 in chips)
Seat 9: Novy29 (2000 in chips)
Razors01: posts small blind 10
Neab: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Neab  
Sklansky13: folds
berbah1: folds
youngVeezy: folds
chuckey3: folds
thaunlucky1: folds
Novy29: raises 40 to 60
splaaat: folds
Razors01: calls 50
Neab: raises 190 to 250
Novy29: folds
Razors01: calls 190
*** FLOP ***   
Razors01: bets 360
Neab: raises 1320 to 1680 and is all-in
I thought, any hand he willing to call my all in is worthy of a check raise since he knows I am going to bet no matter what I have.Right?
I anticipate people saying " blinds this small , you been called pre flop and hes lead the flop...blah blah blah" lol. And you are right, but I couldnt help my self. Logic pre flop is lp can have a wide range of hands,so it fits a squeeze play okayish. Post flop , hes likely missed or got a small pair that hasnt connected and seeing if i have the big overpair or AK ( both are hands i "should" have here.
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Posted Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:21 am GMT by MrDarling
A c/r is the right move if he have a good hand. Leading into the raiser is a better move if you have a monster.
The only reason I don't like this move is your hoping he is good enough to lay an over pair or a good draw and you gamble with all your chips. If you are wrong and he call with a very marginal hand, you're out. And you know you can easily out play him later on.
I guess online, and since you can afford it, its a brilliant move. But i wouldn't risk it in the WOSP. 
Posted Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:21 am GMT by tame_deuces
You played it a like a big pair, so that works, but the correct answer IS 'fold preflop' 
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:41 am GMT by jeffonline
If you want to dominate a table early and you can get away with it good, eventually someone is going to look you up, then its all bad.
Posted Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:52 pm GMT by exit music
I don't mind the play but he's gotta have 55 or 77 ect and I kinda have a feeling he isn't willing to lay it down.
Posted Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:46 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
His call call preflop leads me to think either small pp or AA.
This is a horrible board to play against a pf call call.
His lead out bet... ok, based on what we have so far why would he lead out?
He has a hand which is good now but could be beat down the road
A8 99 TT JJ lets discount QQ-AA because i feel your raise would be reraised preflop with big pairs
A made set - possibly, but i would tend to lead out less flopping a set, altho i would lead out.
55 or 77 - Trying to take the play away from you because he has a hand but not a great hand yet. asking him to lay down a pr + straight draw is a big ask.
I actually don't think your preflop raise looks like a big pair, I would be thinking more like AK, AQ. AA-QQ would probably have got a smaller raise from you, more like 150-180
So based on that I think you're definately getting called by any of the hands above.
Your initial squeeze was fine, i think he's telling you he has something here and i don't think he's letting it go. I think your push looks like a missed AK.
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