AK No Limit CASH Strategy |
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Posted Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:47 am GMT by supafrey
Hi. Ciso posted a take on AK for MTTs so I figured I'd follow up with a basic overview to how to play AK in mid stakes online cash games. This is going to be very rudimentary but I'm pretty sure there'll be some new considerations in here somewhere.
Assumptions
First off, this guide will be assuming a standard full buyin at the table. This is roughly 100BB at any major site, but minor adjustments can be made for a shortstack or 150BB+ (the changes wouldn't be that drastic and a smart player should figure out what to do differently).
First thing to remember is that AK is a great hand. When peeking at your holecards something like AK should seem like an opportunity, not a tough situation. I don't understand why some people say they "hate" AK, and if you're not winning with it you're most likely not playing them correctly. True, it's not a pair of kings or aces, but consider how dominating it is against the majority of hands. While the cliche goes that a pair of deuces is still beating it, any good player should see why this saying is misleading. While AK may be a dog to 22 HU, the range of hands that AK is in good shape against is overwhelming in comparison to the deuces. Multiway (even with as little as 3 people) it's not hard to tell how big drawing cards are better than a pair of twos should the table be seeing fourth or fifth street.
Even against KK the lowly AK isn't in terrible shape, especially considering how many times our big reraises preflop will be taking substantial pots uncontested. We're in bad shape vs AA but c'est la vie. Who really cares. Chances are we're not pushing preflop (hopefully not) and unless the flop comes K high we're likely not going to get stacked post.
Lastly, it's not a DRAWING hand. Whatever the hell that means. If AKs was up against 22 the AK isn't "drawing" anymore than the 22 is "a made hand". Jesus.
Weaknesses of AK
Position. Position is probably a big one. A lot of the time we won't be pairing our king or ace, and being in position will make our situation a good deal more manageable. A strong player uses position most of the time regardless of his cards, but with AK the extra attention must be paid. The worse or more uncomfortable of a player you are (be honest with yourself, this will save you a ton of money) the more pressing this is. Firing continuation bets are a must, but edgy players be forewarned.
Small pots post flop. Unless the action was loose and sloppy preflop, the pot will likely be small come the flop. With AK, it's very likely you want to keep it that way. While I'm going to be explaining a very aggressive preflop strategy with AK, you're going to want to be substantially "smaller" postfop. Consider a flop like K89. After calling a raise from you preflop, your opponent is now reraising/4 betting you on the flop. What could he possibly have? Keeping the pot small prevents us from getting stacked in big pots against the monsters.
Preflop
Remember what I just said about small pots postflop? Forget that for a second and do the exact opposite preflop. AK is a monster hand when all 5 cards get to be seen. Remember, our problems with AK come from letting mediocre cards stack us off postflop with monsters, or pushing us off of pots we're winning because of how uncomfortable we are with just a pair. Neither of these problems exist preflop.
For the love of god raise with your AK. While my VPIP and raise % are both very high in general, there's not a single person that couldn't do for a bit more raising in their repetoire... a side effect of that aggressive style is the need to make VALUE from our big hands. AK is a big hand. Raise raise raise.
Do we call pushes preflop with AK? Well... this varies greatly on the stakes. As a general rule, the lower the stakes, the less likely people seem to be in favour of getting super creative preflop. At higher stakes, you're more likely to see looser pushes and I've seen AK be more dominating a greater percentage of the time. I personally call nearly all pushes with AK at 100nl, but at the bottom of the spectrum I've seen more KK + AAs overall, if that means anything. Take it how you will.
Consider the following situations:
1. AK in position, and there's one limper from MP already in the pot. We raise it to 4X and our op reraises to 15. With position, we decide to call because we can reevaluate based on the flop.
2. AK in MP, we raise to 4x, and are reraised to 14X by the button. The BB flat calls. We can either ....
a) Call and be in decent relative position to the raiser (as the BB will be sandwiched between the two of us). This is more likely of a consideration if the raiser is a bit LAGgy and also almost always fires a continuation bet.
b) Reraise to 35-40xbb with a plan to continuation bet push . This is more likely if our initial raiser is a bit of a preflop cannon or likely to push with mediocre cards. Avoid this if the caller in between seems like scared money that could very easily be holding JJ-KK. Most players of moderate skill will be reraising with those out of the blinds, though, so if our BB seems to show any talent this is less of a worry.
c) Push!. This is great against regular ABC players, nits, and maniacs. If you've been showing off ALOT of raises (like I do, because I'm a bit aggressive) this play gets proportionally better. Alternatively, the tighter you have been (why the hell are you playing tight, jerk) the worse this play becomes. You are less likely to be called by moderate holdings and more likely to only get action while destroyed in more and more of the cases.
3. We have AK, raise to 4x and get 3 callers. The flop misses us but we continuation bet. 1 person calls out of position and the turn misses us again. Do we fire another bet?
a) It depends. Ha!
b) The more draw heavy the flop was, the more likely 2 important factors are coming into play. First, that that person is drawing, and secondly that they would have likely reraised the flop to see where they were with any pairs/strong hands. With more draws, be more willing to fire a second and often third barrel. If the draw hits and you get reraised, consider folding.
c) Our image. Have we been raising alot? This is vital. I'm not going to explain all of the nuances of this, but just consider how you play differently with likely hands against people that are tight and alternatively against bullies.
If there's any questions we can field them here. I hope this is somewhat helpful.
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Posted Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:44 pm GMT by aaronw
That is very helpful, supa. Thanks very much for posting your thought on this, it is greatly appreciated. I just have a few questions:
Here you say:
| Quote: | | 3. We have AK, raise to 4x and get 3 callers. The flop misses us but we continuation bet. |
Why are we making a continuation bet into 3 players? Does this depend on the texture of the flop or are you always making continuation bets? Personally, I don't like making continuation bets into 3 players on the flop. I think the flop is likely to have hit atleast one of the players (or they have some sort of draw or pocket pair).
Also, in question two you have an option of:
| Quote: | | Reraise to 35-40xbb with a plan to continuation bet push |
What if one of the players reraises you all in? Are you planning to call a push? Personally, I don't 4 bet much unless it is a 4-bet shove (leak?). I would much prefer a 4-bet shove here instead of 4-betting to 40bb or so. I think if we raise to 40bb or so and he pushes we are definately beat, because noone really 5-bet pushes without having AK beat (most people don't anyway). But we have to call because the pot is so big and we are getting great odds.
If you could share some of your thoughts on this, that would be great. Thanks again.
Posted Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:21 pm GMT by tame_deuces
Good post Supa, I like it when you write stuff with more than 2 sentences in it.
On question:
About your point 2c, you say pushing with AK becomes worse the tighter you have been (or paraphrasing; the tighter we suspect being viewed), but wouldn't you say that this also gives you a fair degree of semi-bluffing possibility? In the sense that certain people may lay down hands which coinflip you, such as TT,JJ,QQ...a range which (pending) can be more likely than AA,KK?
Posted Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:33 pm GMT by Skribbles
| aaronw wrote: | T
| Quote: | | Reraise to 35-40xbb with a plan to continuation bet push |
What if one of the players reraises you all in? Are you planning to call a push? |
Assuming you are playing w/ 100BBs, you must call. Raising to 40xbb and then folding is absolutely horrible.
Posted Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:35 pm GMT by supafrey
One of the weaknesses of raising to 30-40xbb with AK is that it leaves us with limited potential should our opp reraise us all in. With a player of my style, calling the push is definitely worth it. (60BB into 140BB is still fine... remember... even against KK we have odds to call here). But this definitely shows the strength of the preflop shove instead... At stakes 600+ you will RARELY see a strong player only put half their stack in with AK preflop. Everyone pushes with AK instead of the reraise, but I think the raise to 40x has some value at lower stakes where people will give you a good deal more credit.
To answer your continuation bet question, i c-bet about 95% of the time. I'm very comfortable in my ability to read why a lone opp would be calling my c-bet (as opposed to raising or folding) and with my emphasis on position I'm really not that worried. The number of times I'm "caught" here is pretty much equalized by the amount of times I successfully reevaluate on the turn/river and win that money back. If you are NOT a strong post flop player, then c-betting slightly less may be prudent.
Remember... there's nothing WRONG with c-betting slightly less, as all decisions have to be based on your own individual image, style and weaknesses. No lone decision is bad if the rest of your game is based around it and supports these adjustments. Being honest with your degree of postflop comfort will win you MORE money than overplaying your marginal abilities. There's no such thing as an objectively +EV decision - it has to be based around your own individual tendancies and subtleties... if it's going to cost you money because you regularly tighten up on scary turns and rivers, then maybe this play isn't for you.
Tame.. Yeah pushing with AK is decent as a semibluff, but if we're seriously playing even decently tight then a 3x reraise will do just as much as a push. If anything, they'd probably be more scared because of how reserved we are with our raises. (Most tight players don't play super fast with their KK/AA).
It's weird though.. because pushing if you're a lag is definite +EV (AK is so much better than our usual range) so it almost seems intuitive that pushing if we're relatively tight must get slightly worse and worse depending on how tight we are. Never necessarily "bad", ofcourse, but marginally less profitable for every percentage point we regularly tighten up preflop... (AK isn't that much better than our usual range, and maybe even slightly worse HU than our normal PP... our opp surely must know this?)
It's an interesting consideration, but quite possibly a moot one considering our avg stack sizes. Chances are with a push we're very likely to not be making thaaaat big a mistake either way, though.
Posted Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:03 pm GMT by Jauron
Gonna rehash this one cause I've been pondering lately if I am still correct in how I handle this situation.
Assume:
NL Cash game
All stacks are between 100-150BB
You have yet to act facing a push preflop with AK. Outside push there is very little money in the pot and we have at most the blind invested.
Just to keep it simple, assume although there may be a raise before the push or limps, you feel there is very little chance anyone else will call unless someone behind you wakes up with AA or KK.
Villian is most likely only pushing with AK,AQ, or any pocket pair.
Our move and why.
Posted Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:29 pm GMT by aaronw
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
2,547,908,352 games 0.005 secs 509,581,670,400 games/sec
Board:
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.978% 42.95% 05.03% 1094263608 128163894.00 { AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 52.022% 46.99% 05.03% 1197316956 128163894.00 { 22+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Against that range we are approximately a 48% underdog. Just do the math based on how much it is to call and how much is in the blinds.
Posted Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:55 pm GMT by supafrey
| Jauron wrote: | Gonna rehash this one cause I've been pondering lately if I am still correct in how I handle this situation.
Assume:
NL Cash game
All stacks are between 100-150BB
You have yet to act facing a push preflop with AK. Outside push there is very little money in the pot and we have at most the blind invested.
Just to keep it simple, assume although there may be a raise before the push or limps, you feel there is very little chance anyone else will call unless someone behind you wakes up with AA or KK.
Villian is most likely only pushing with AK,AQ, or any pocket pair.
Our move and why. |
Err... As in...
we're on the button with AKo, ep raises to 4x... MP pushes for 150x and it's on us?
I fold.
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:41 am GMT by Jauron
I think I over simplified it to the point it ended up being ridiculous. Shame I think I orginally had a valid question somewhere in that mess.
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:22 am GMT by MrDarling
great post Supa.
What you're thoughts about playing AK from the blinds.
few limpers I'd usually raise 5-6XBB
But I often just call a raise and fold UI - is that a leak?
I really hate playing OOP.
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:52 am GMT by supafrey
AK from the blinds I treat very similarly to JJ+. They don't know your cards, and from 100nl+ (where 95% of my experience is) people are smart enough to realize that you're reopening the betting preflop which screams of strength. I never call with it that OOP, only raise. Followed by an easy continuation bet on each and every flop.
As for the raise amount, you have to make it larger due to your weaker position. 6-7bb is standard, but I'll increase it 1-2bb for every limper in.
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:46 pm GMT by mackkie
Thanks a lot supa, u owe me $58.75
PokerStars Game #8259911919: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/02/03 - 12:41:28 (ET)
Table 'Ilioneus V' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Lucky_WIns ($52.30 in chips)
Seat 2: doro74 ($29.40 in chips)
Seat 3: ewags1234 ($8.95 in chips)
Seat 4: Vine_St ($80.40 in chips)
Seat 5: Dewey@UCR ($43.30 in chips)
Seat 6: IOwnFejj ($58.75 in chips)
ewags1234: posts small blind $0.25
Vine_St: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IOwnFejj  
Dewey@UCR: calls $0.50
IOwnFejj: raises $2 to $2.50
Lucky_WIns: folds
doro74: folds
ewags1234: folds
Vine_St: calls $2
Dewey@UCR: calls $2
*** FLOP ***   
Vine_St: checks
Dewey@UCR: checks
IOwnFejj: bets $2
Vine_St: calls $2
Dewey@UCR: folds
*** TURN *** 
Vine_St: checks
IOwnFejj: bets $4.50
Vine_St: raises $8 to $12.50
IOwnFejj: calls $8
*** RIVER *** 
Vine_St: bets $25
IOwnFejj: raises $16.75 to $41.75 and is all-in
Vine_St: calls $16.75
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IOwnFejj: shows (a pair of Aces)
Vine_St: shows   (three of a kind, Fours)
Vine_St collected $117.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $120.25 | Rake $3
Board
Seat 1: Lucky_WIns folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: doro74 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ewags1234 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Vine_St (big blind) showed and won ($117.25) with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 5: Dewey@UCR folded on the Flop
Seat 6: IOwnFejj showed and lost with a pair of Aces
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:55 pm GMT by mackkie
and again....
PokerStars Game #8260073543: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/02/03 - 12:53:38 (ET)
Table 'Bechuana' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: IOwnFejj ($83.20 in chips)
Seat 2: bullyboh ($65.40 in chips)
Seat 3: Iwanturtots ($32.25 in chips)
Seat 4: Key_33 ($50 in chips)
Seat 5: Rim-K ($68.45 in chips)
Seat 6: _2_4_0_0 ($67.85 in chips)
IOwnFejj: posts small blind $0.25
bullyboh: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IOwnFejj  
Iwanturtots: calls $0.50
Key_33: folds
Rim-K: folds
_2_4_0_0: folds
IOwnFejj: raises $2 to $2.50
bullyboh: folds
Iwanturtots: calls $2
*** FLOP ***  
IOwnFejj: bets $2
Iwanturtots: raises $2 to $4
IOwnFejj: calls $2
*** TURN *** 
IOwnFejj: checks
Iwanturtots: checks
*** RIVER *** 
IOwnFejj: bets $12
Iwanturtots: calls $12
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IOwnFejj: shows (a pair of Aces)
Iwanturtots: shows  (two pair, Tens and Fours)
Iwanturtots collected $35.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $37.50 | Rake $1.80
Board
Seat 1: IOwnFejj (small blind) showed and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: bullyboh (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Iwanturtots showed and won ($35.70) with two pair, Tens and Fours
Seat 4: Key_33 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Rim-K folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: _2_4_0_0 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Im not going to get any of these guys to lay down a set and 2 pair at low levels, so i dont think i played it horribly.
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:04 pm GMT by supafrey
Your flop bet was pretty horrible and your river raise was pretty bad.
I haven't looked at your second hand yet but yeah
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:05 pm GMT by mackkie
| supafrey wrote: | | Your flop bet was pretty horrible. |
Got ya, thanks 
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:06 pm GMT by Jernej Zorec
u played those 2 hands badly imo
in 2nd hand u make a c-bet when u miss and your oponend reraises u,
thats clear fold, du u really think he is reraising with AQ or AJ here ?
hand 1 is a bit more tricky but he calls your c-bet and reraises on turn which a lot of times means strangth, and ur biggest mistake is pushing the money in on river , a call would't be that bad but to push with tptk after u get reraised on turn, i just dont think u are ahead here that often. and not to mention u really only get called by better hand unless villian is a complete donk
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:06 pm GMT by supafrey
okay now I've looked at your second hand and that's pretty bad too.
You have tricky play syndrome up the wazoo. I can't understand a single action of yours on any street.
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:01 pm GMT by UtrechtSlim
AK is my favourite hand, I like it even better than QQ. There's a section in Brunson's Super System, in which he says he likes AK better than AA. Why? Because you stand to lose more with AA. Rockets are harder to lay down. I concur and I am NOT the kind of player that gets married to a big pair. AK is a consistent winner! Apart from the strategies already mentioned there's one other I sometimes use. If the table is active preflop, I will sometimes limp EP and when someone raises I will put in a sizeable reraise posturing for AA. If the original raiser comes over the top he/she almost certainly has AA and you can throw your hand away. In general, you will take down the pot right there. If you are called by a medium pair you're still in good shape. Only if the table is active though. If a raise is not to be expected limping with AK is a mortal sin.
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:08 pm GMT by zeroswarm
I think the best way to play AK varies greatly depending on what stakes your playing (as supa has mentioned).
Personally I have to admit to the fact that I've probably been pushed off AK after not hitting the flop maybe too many times. I think mostly its when I've been faced with a big post flop bet and thought "they've probably hit something so I'm now behind".
The thing is I'm usually on the lower stakes and to carry on with A high against a lot of the players I face isn't necessarily a good strategy.
Out of curiosity, supa, about what percentage of flops do you normally see as a loose agg player?
My own flops seen percentage seems to alter dramatically from game to game so I just wondered what your average worked out to be?
Anyway, this is quite an interesting topic. Nice post.
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:25 pm GMT by exit music
| mackkie wrote: |
*** RIVER ***
Vine_St: bets $25
IOwnFejj: raises $16.75 to $41.75 and is all-in
Vine_St: calls $16.75
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IOwnFejj: shows (a pair of Aces)
Vine_St: shows (three of a kind, Fours)
Vine_St collected $117.25 from pot
|
You clearly didn't play this hand perfectly up to the river, but after you get cold-called, then re-raised on the turn, you gotta think your opponent has better than AQ.
Gotta fold to that big bet on the river, especially bc your opponent slowplayed your ass. You gave up $41.75 after your opponent basically told you he had a set/better.
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:30 pm GMT by aaronw
Hand 1- flop bet is terrible. its too small. as played, fold turn.
Hand 2- fold flop.
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:00 pm GMT by supafrey
i see a lot of flops.
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:57 pm GMT by zeroswarm
| supafrey wrote: | | i see a lot of flops. |
Thats what I figured.... 
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:06 pm GMT by Kearsed
I personally slow play AK or raise very little....
if you hit a pair your almost certain to have the best hand
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:20 pm GMT by supafrey
| Kearsed wrote: | I personally slow play AK or raise very little....
if you hit a pair your almost certain to have the best hand |
yeah that's horrible.
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:29 pm GMT by aaronw
I think I have to agree with supa about the above post.
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:09 pm GMT by TheSalche
Makkie - for hand 1, you need to fold that turn, Baluga theorem (from 2p2) states that TPTK is almost never good against an unknown player who raises the turn.
supa - you crack me up mate, i know you're trying to "prove" something to the mods right now by making this thread, i find it funny because i know you're the type of guy who doesn't think in absolutes in terms of poker ... and this thread basically guides one on how to play AK which is sort of absolute
Posted Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:46 pm GMT by supafrey
hrms..
How do I put this properly...
Poker isn't about absolutes, you're right about that. There are, however, substantially better ways to play than others and more often than not there is only one or two "correct" plays for a given street. Too often poker players seem to get the idea that "it depends" means that there really is no one specific best play - that ofcourse is ridiculous.. There most likely is a BEST one, even if the amount of information we have is inconclusive or makes it difficult to choose.
What's my point?
Well... The reason I was able to tell kearsed that what he does is "bad" is surprisingly straight forward. If AK isn't a raising hand, then just how many of our hands are? If we're not pumping up our good hands, we're either not pumping up enough cards in general or, just as likely, raising our mediocre hands too often. Small/no raises will generally point to a the leaky trend and as such, are most probably wrong.
While I stand by the fact that there ARE no absolutes, we're clearly trying to get something out of our discussions here, and general principles and guidelines will offer the nublet SOME semblance of assuredness in what's "right". There's enough crappy info out there to hide this "right" stuff in with all the "wrong", so I'm not particularily worried in spreading the good stuff around. Notice my articles always seem to have 3-4 options and the considerations we're supposed to be thinking of? While you may disagree with my "play", the thinking behind each idea is really the only important part - your villain and situation may change, but hopefully I can atleast teach you what you SHOULD be thinking about.
Posted Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:20 am GMT by MrDarling
Makkie , going broke with TPTK is simply bad. There are so many hands that beat you who would play exactly like that , that it should be a real easy fold. If you are not sure, and have some read about villain you might consider calling his raise, but what is the point in reraising? By getting upset that he his stealing your hand, you actually gave him a lot more then necessary.
Don't blame Supa.
Hand 2 - fold the flop. Seriously you missed the flop and he reraise you. What are you chasing. Even if all he had is a pair of 4's you're chasing your 6 lonely outs with no odds.
Supa, Thanks. Started reraising with AK from the blinds as well.
Had a weird session last night - lost half a buyin with 3 premium hands in the EP or Blinds and people kept pushing me off them (ie J's with 2 overs on the flop, AK UI etc..) then then next 3 hands gave me even a bigger hands and I got it all back and more (Q's AK twice etc...)
Posted Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:08 am GMT by MrDarling
Another question Supa , what the line when someone open raise a big amount preflop. Lets say 10XBB or so?
In LP , or in the blinds?
In low levels some people raise this big amount with any pocket pair.
Do we raise again and call a push?
Is that a place to call and attempt to steal or fold UI?
Should we even consider a fold?
I think folding is probably out of the question - especially without reads. But I hate reraising 1/3 of my stack here. I almost think a push is better. So far been calling those, but think its a bad move.
Thanks
Posted Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:15 am GMT by MrDarling
Thank you Supa.
Sometimes its ok to call allin with TPTK 
min raise UTG calls my hugh reraise from the blinds.
Could have been a set. But would a set really try to push me off a pot.
Was dudes first hand and I made a crying call.
Full Tilt Poker Game #1730883429: Table Duneville - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 6:02:39 ET - 2007/02/04
Seat 1: x_Muck em_x ($3.90)
Seat 2: Kristiant ($4)
Seat 3: mystackisfat ($13.85)
Seat 4: easytell69 ($4)
Seat 5: veryouchbaby ($18.60)
Seat 6: hero ($16.25)
Seat 7: ptfrt ($10)
Seat 8: pokerimikael ($10)
Seat 9: scott951 ($10)
hero posts the small blind of $0.05
ptfrt posts the big blind of $0.10
Kristiant posts $0.10
5 seconds left to act
scott951 posts $0.10
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero
scott951 raises to $0.20
x_Muck em_x calls $0.20
Kristiant calls $0.10
mystackisfat folds
easytell69 calls $0.20
veryouchbaby folds
mystackisfat: if luck wasnt envolved id win every pot
hero raises to $1.10
ptfrt folds
scott951 calls $0.90
x_Muck em_x folds
Kristiant calls $0.90
easytell69 calls $0.90
*** FLOP *** 
mystackisfat: welcome new players
hero bets $3
x_Muck em_x adds $4
mystackisfat: very ouch is gay
scott951 raises to $8.90, and is all in
mystackisfat: likes boys
Kristiant folds
easytell69 folds
hero calls $5.90
scott951 shows 
hero shows
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER *** 
scott951 shows two pair, Aces and Fours
hero shows two pair, Aces and Fours
mystackisfat: ouch when your in the butt
hero wins the pot ($20.50) with two pair, Aces and Fours
scott951 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $22.50 | Rake $2
Board:
Seat 1: x_Muck em_x folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Kristiant folded on the Flop
Seat 3: mystackisfat didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: easytell69 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: veryouchbaby (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: hero (small blind) showed and won ($20.50) with two pair, Aces and Fours
Seat 7: ptfrt (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: pokerimikael is sitting out
Seat 9: scott951 showed and lost with two pair, Aces and Fours
Thoughts?
Posted Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:31 pm GMT by mackkie
At least it worked for someone 
Posted Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:33 pm GMT by MrDarling
| mackkie wrote: | | At least it worked for someone |
It always work, if you are willing to fold UI.
Had a session last night where I had good premium hands (AK , J's , Q's) I raised hugh preflop. Got called and had to fold on the flop.
I lost half my buyin this way.
But few hands after doubled up using the same method and hitting or people fold to my cont. Bet.
Posted Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:38 pm GMT by mortaleclipse
First hand at sitting on a 200NL in the BB. All in from under the gun for 198 dollars WTF first hand. I got A  K , call. Board comes out some cards, I think I hit my king or something but villian had Ace/5o. I win 400 dollar pot of 20 seconds of sitting down at table, was sweet
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