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Help meh with this hand



Posted Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:28 pm GMT by BigSlick34
Well its my first hand posting on here, so give me a little insight on how i should have played this instead of how I did. Thanks all:)



drowsy posts the small blind of $0.05
girber20 posts the big blind of $0.10
darklb posts $0.10
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Aceofspades5315 Ace of SpadesQueen of Spades
Eazy_Ed folds
MagCon folds
Ninjaxin calls $0.10
Aceofspades5315 raises to $0.30
Thunder1123 calls $0.30
darklb folds
Winslow52 folds
drowsy folds
girber20 folds
Ninjaxin calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** Four of DiamondsQueen of HeartsTen of Spades
Ninjaxin checks
Aceofspades5315 checks
Thunder1123 bets $0.30
Ninjaxin calls $0.30
Aceofspades5315 raises to $0.60
Thunder1123 calls $0.30
Ninjaxin calls $0.30
*** TURN *** Four of DiamondsQueen of HeartsTen of Spades Eight of Spades
Ninjaxin checks
Aceofspades5315 bets $0.70
Thunder1123 folds
Ninjaxin calls $0.70
*** RIVER *** Four of DiamondsQueen of HeartsTen of SpadesEight of Spades Eight of Hearts
Ninjaxin checks
Aceofspades5315 bets $0.80
Ninjaxin calls $0.80, and is all in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Aceofspades5315 shows Ace of SpadesQueen of Spades (two pair, Queens and Eights)
Ninjaxin shows King of SpadesKing of Hearts (two pair, Kings and Eights)
Ninjaxin wins the pot ($5.40) with two pair, Kings and Eights
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.95 | Rake $0.55
Board: Four of DiamondsQueen of HeartsTen of SpadesEight of SpadesEight of Hearts
Seat 1: Thunder1123 folded on the Turn
Seat 2: darklb folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Winslow52 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: drowsy (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: girber20 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Eazy_Ed didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: MagCon didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Ninjaxin showed King of SpadesKing of Hearts and won ($5.40) with two pair, Kings and Eights
Seat 9: Aceofspades5315 showed Ace of SpadesQueen of Spades and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights


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Posted Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:06 pm GMT by aaronw
Raise more PF. If you are raising on the flop, raise more than the min.


Posted Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:08 pm GMT by TheSalche
1. Don't post results, it tends to skew the perception of how you played the hand
2. I'd raise a bit more preflop, 0.40 or 0.50
3. Didn't like the flop check/raise, just lead out for 3/4 - full pot
4. If you're going to bet the turn I'd probably bet more, 1/2 - 3/4 of the pot. You could've checked here since there aren't many worse hands that will call you (basically QK, QJ and JK).
5. Reload preflop, I know you're a new player and you'll be a losing player for a bit, but if you always play short-stacked, you won't ever learn how to play the turn/river.



Posted Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:09 pm GMT by exit music
If you wanna be hard to read preflop, when you are raising in position, a good rule of thumb is raise 4xBB+1BB per limper, so this would be .50c, that should help you isolate and get some money into the pot.

Your flop check/min-raise is horrible. It's very "novicey" and it's something you're going to have to work on, when you make a bet on the flop, you shoul decide what % of the pot you want to bet. In this case, since you've got TPTK you should bet 2/3rds or even a pot-sized bet. Top pair-top kick is not a good enough hand to check-raise, especially since you raised preflop. Consider check-raising if you hit a monster hand after you cold-call preflop and the preflop raiser is still to act behind you.

The turn gives you the nut-flush draw. Due to your stack, go all-in here.

There is a 0% chance of being able to fold this.

Assuming you did have a real chip-stack, another 2/3rd pot bet seems good for the turn. On the river if you miss your flush, you should probably hope to check it down. If your opponent makes a significant bet on the river (assuming you still have a lot of chips) this is when you might be able to fold this hand.



Posted Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:13 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
I think you guys are overanalyzing this hand... everything looks 100% standard to me.


Posted Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:09 am GMT by MrDarling
I hate the mini c/r .

But with the size of his stack I pay him here pretty much every time.



Posted Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:58 am GMT by TheSalche
xDiamond_CutteRx wrote:
I think you guys are overanalyzing this hand... everything looks 100% standard to me.


you min c/r the flop when you were the preflop raiser?



Posted Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:14 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
TheSalche wrote:
xDiamond_CutteRx wrote:
I think you guys are overanalyzing this hand... everything looks 100% standard to me.


you min c/r the flop when you were the preflop raiser?

Not usually, but I think this hand would have played out the same regardless given stacks.






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