Posted Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:08 pm GMT by Ensano
this like just just happened in the 3+R sat to sun 1M...
the call on the turn was to make a bet even if he checked the river...
do you call push of fold here?
PokerStars Game #8372327571: Tournament #42105712, $3+$0 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/02/10 - 14:02:32 (ET)
Table '42105712 40' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: smockrecluse (8095 in chips)
Seat 3: MegaMarc1 (4053 in chips)
Seat 4: demetrism (2175 in chips)
Seat 5: Ensano (4895 in chips)
Seat 6: Oldjohn (3000 in chips)
Seat 7: XPoker1 (3733 in chips)
Seat 8: MIDMOB (4140 in chips)
Seat 9: manilemano (2829 in chips)
MIDMOB: posts small blind 50
manilemano: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ensano  
smockrecluse said, "thanks"
smockrecluse: folds
MegaMarc1 said, "nice call 5k"
MegaMarc1: folds
demetrism: folds
Ensano: calls 100
Oldjohn: folds
XPoker1: folds
MIDMOB: calls 50
manilemano: checks
*** FLOP ***   
johnnymumble is connected
MIDMOB: bets 300
manilemano: folds
Ensano: calls 300
*** TURN *** 
MIDMOB: bets 600
Ensano: calls 600
*** RIVER *** 
MIDMOB: bets 1500
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Posted Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:48 pm GMT by aaronw
Raise or fold PF.
I may raise flop, but calling is fine too.
Raise turn.
Call river.
Posted Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:08 pm GMT by MrDarling
I call. Probably a leak in my game, but I hate to reraise without the nuts.
My guess he has a smaller flush or a made str at best, but I still just call with the off chance that he have 97 or 96
Posted Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:25 pm GMT by Ensano
| aaronw wrote: | Raise or fold PF.
I may raise flop, but calling is fine too.
Raise turn.
Call river. |
this is a full table and a RB... raising PF with this is asking for trouble...
raising the turn gives away my hand... and if I just call here I've still got position on river...
you'd call on the river given that the villian only has 329 chips left in a 4k+ pot?... you wouldn't play to bust him?
Posted Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:33 pm GMT by groton
well i say u cant fold the nut flush.
so i say push.
if he has teh boat or quids oh well
Posted Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:54 pm GMT by Ensano
yeah.... just I didn't really like the classic "fake bluff" pot bet on the river... screamed I was beat...
I made the crying push and he showed...
94o...
I know we agreed to stop disguising out bad beat posts... but I'm just trying to find out why whenever I slow down my play, even a little, I get into situations like this... I don't think a slowplay has ever worked out for me...
I just need someone to help me... I can't keep running head first into made hands and I don't know how to slow down properly
Posted Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:50 pm GMT by aaronw
Well, if raising with this hand PF is a problem, why are we playing this hand in the first place? You're only 2 off the button anyway, so whats wrong with raising? In my opinion, raise or fold. Personally, I never open limp any hands PF, but I dunno if that is right...
If we raise the turn, we are getting more money in the pot, which is what we want.
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